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Can i i sugest this be locked firther as i have had to remove "killer" from this story and since it has just broke, i guess alot of people will wish to play games here. Ragingbull911 (talk) 15:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The BBC article referenced says that the player arrested is believed to be McCormick. The article here says categorically that it is him, which is not quite the same thing. As far as I can see, no reliable source has actually said right out that "McCormick is the player in question". 86.149.133.204 (talk) 16:44, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One has, and it's unconfirmed. Thus, we leave it out for now. This isn't a race, we're not a news service. Steve ^{T • C} 17:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The BBC are now identifying him without qualification (on TV news, although the website still prevaricates). This page will need close watching to avoid statements going beyond the legally established facts (can Wiki be held in contempt of court?) Even if he is established to have been the driver involved in the accident (not yet uncontrovertible: no admission or evidence is in the public forum), a case of dangerous driving would remain to be proven. Kevin McE (talk) 07:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The BBC website also states that the boy's father Philip Peak "is in hospital in a serious but stable condition with fractures to his neck and back, broken ribs, bruising and swelling to his lungs" and not "minor injuries" as stated on the Wikipedia page. May I suggest this is changed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.100.240.74 (talk) 18:12, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article says nothing about the injuries to the father of the two dead boys. It says that 3 other males, aged 49, 15 and 8, had minor injuries. Kevin McE (talk) 18:25, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Should it not be called a collision or a incident, and not an "accident"- that hasnt been proved yet! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fitz41 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 8 June 2008 (UTC) There's a general trend amongst the police and paramedics etc to NOT use the word accident. Accident implies that no-one is to blame (wholly or in part), which may or may not be case. Collision is neutral, neither blaming anyone nor absolving anyone of responsibility. (jon B; Sun 8th June)[reply]

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Several lines of NPOV fanzine-style uncited quotes and personal opinion re performances removed from Biography para. Quotes should be cited and linked (eg Western Morning News or whoever) Plutonium27 (talk) 19:35, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Court details

Our purpose is to report encyclopaedic details, not mimic tabloid reportage of a trial. We record that he was convicted, not the press releases of the family and a selection of witness comments. Recent versions of this article have looked distinctly pointy, as though produced by a campaign group for tougher sentencing. Kevin McE (talk) 21:12, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I find that the current version in fact downplays the gravity of what happened. A couple of references to the family's reaction and the fact that the sentence was a quarter of the maximum are hardly "pointy"; they are factual, just as they are factual in other articles. This was a serious event, and McCormick will be as remembered for the crash and conviction as for his playing career, so I feel it deserves more than what looks like barely a passing reference. It is not tabloidy; the sources are mainstream media, so perfectly valid for WP. I have no great interest one way or the other, so I will leave it to other editors to decide whether what is currently here strikes the right balance. Harry the Dog WOOF 18:02, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

former English football goalkeeper?

He might be in jail but I dunno if he's offically retired. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.186.110 (talk) 13:37, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Hughes is one example of a player who's returned after a lengthy jail sentence, and McCormick will be young enough to play again, so 'retired' should only be used if a source can be found with him stating that he will not play professionally again.--MartinUK (talk) 17:53, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He is a former England keeper in the sense that he is not a current one. The term does not preclude him from being one again in the future. Harry the Dog WOOF 20:30, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He has resumed his position as keeper, after being released from prison. Jim Michael (talk) 17:53, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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