Talk:Lugdunum

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population size

The 2-3rd century population figures came from the history cited. To the anonymous IP who increased it to 200,000 or more, please offer your source here. Size of aqueduct seems a pretty weak basis for estimation and is still unsourced. Changes of numbers without explanation by anon IP numbers are usually "sneaky vandalism", so-called because they are hard to catch. I am open to adding or modifying info if you can tell me your source and discuss here. Otherwise you are a vandal. Thanks for understanding. alteripse 22:57, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there is no solid base for the population of the roman cities, because they had no population census, it is generally estimated using the enclosed walled area, but this tipe of estimate does not fit with these city, because it was build during the pax romana (a period of internal peace in the empire). There were hundreds of cities in the Roman Empire with populations numbering in the 40,000-50,000, and Lugdunum was considered a major city, and in the roman empire major cities had populations numbering in the half million, like Carthage and Ephesus.

And a modern city of the US, with has a large amount of per capita water consumption, consumes 0,3 cubic meters of water per head. And if this figure is extended to Lugdunum, its population would be 225.000 considering the amount of water with flows to the city.--200.203.8.66 05:32, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation and welcome to wikipedia. If you can provide sources for (a) the water flow and (b) for someone else who has published the higher populaton estimates, let's put it in the article. Also, please consider registering an account (basically just picking a name so your IP number is concealed and your contributions are less likely to be confused with others). It also makes people a little less suspicious that minor changes might be vandalism. alteripse 19:46, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The Battle of Lugdunum

This section starts off with the line "... four generals again contended for the purple". As I am not an expert in this subject material I am not sure what this means. My educated guess is that this means they were fighting to become the Roman Emperor. I don't want to edit the section as I am not sure of the meaning; however, I think that this "slang" term should either 1) be defined or 2) be rephrased to make it clear.

Also, the phrase "... the Lugdunum mint issued coins celebrating his clemency ..." seems to be inaccurate. I think perhaps clemency is not the right word here as it is synonmous with a pardon. I think perhaps "acencion (sp?) to Emperor or some such thing.

See the french version!

A good work is running on the french version in order to promote him so ... this page could be better! Otourly (talk) 17:08, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lugdunum in north-western Europe ??!!

I think (hope) it is a mistake. I would find strange that no one would have noticed it before. Well, We all agree here that Lugdunum was where is now Lyon, France, which is in south-western Europe (close to italy, about 100km from mediterranean areas, not north-western Europe at all.

Perhaps it would have been more accurate to say "most important city in the northwest region of the roman empire". The point is that during that period there were no cities to the north or west of L that were larger or more important". alteripse (talk) 01:50, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Lyon

I've decided to create a portal of Lyon (Portal:Lyon, It's the first time I'm creating a portal and in English so it will be long =). The french wikipedia portal is Portail:Grand Lyon If you want to help me on this difficult task you are welcome. Lulu97417 (talk) 01:58, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Latin origin for LUG

LUG can be related to Latin term "locus" ("place"). Also in old Albanian language "LUG" mean "meeting/assembly place" or "valley". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.249.47.166 (talk) 19:35, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Roman Emperor Constantin did not found Constantinopel. The city existed for approximately 960 years before he decided to move from Rome to it and make it the capital of the Eastern part of the Empire. The city was founded by a guy named Byzas from the city of Megara near Athens. He named it Byzantion. The Christians renamed the city to Konstantinoupolis after the Emperor's death to honor him because he helped them become the main religion in the Empire.Abc 123 xyz 456 (talk) 23:31, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lugdunum - "Desirable Mountain" vs "Divinity Lug's Mountain"

The proposed etymology of Lugdunum as the "Divinity Lug's Mountain" seems speculative, as there is no evidence for the worship of the mainly Iberian god Lugus in Lugdunum or indeed in most of Gaul. And transforming a crow into a cock, the national symbol of modern France, sounds like wishful thinking. Can anyone offer a reference for all this? If not, should this passage be deleted or shortened? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.131.68.128 (talk) 11:53, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The etymology and (mis)interpretation of the name by glossators in Late Antiquity and the early Middle Ages is fully discussed in Toorians, Lauran, “Endlicher’s Glossary, an attempt to write its history”, in: García Alonso, Juan Luis (ed.), Celtic and other languages in ancient Europe, Aquilafuente 127, Salamanca: Ediciones Universidad de Salamanca, 2008. 153–184. Cagwinn (talk) 20:37, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]