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Reviewer: Wetrorave (talk · contribs) 16:34, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]


From a quick look, here's my opinion:

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()
3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Infobox and lead

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Background

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  • "As The-Dream recalls, "I called [Island Def Jam executive] Karen Kwak and I told her I wanted to [...] shit. I figured" > "The-Dream stated he remembers calling Island Def Jam executive Karen Kwak and telling her he "wanted to [...] shit." The-Dream said: "I figured"

Writing and recording

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  • "and McKinney[4] – were [...] Angeles.[5]" > "and McKinney – were [...] Angeles.[4][5]"
  • "approach[6] and wrote some of its songs responding" > "approach,[6] writing some of its songs as a response"
  • "life, most notably "Nikki", which was inspired" > "life. An example is "Nikki", a track inspired"
  • "from past artists" > "from artists" – past is redundant, since there's no way someone can be influenced by a future artist[b]
  • "elements,[4] as the" > "elements.[4] The" for the sentence not be too large
  • "resolutely luminescent" with" > "resolutely luminescent", with" for readers to have a pause on this sentence

Title and packaging

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  • Change to Title and album cover
  • Make this section a level 3 header since it's three/four lines long

Marketing and sales

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  • "Around the time of "Bed"'s release," > "Near the release of "Bed","

Critical reception

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  • Ref 25 redirects to Vibe's news page; use this
  • "year" because of The-Dream's ability to write catchy songs." > "year",opining that The-Dream is a skilled songwriter."
    • Well, the critic specifies it's his "tune-sense", tune meaning melody or melodic song, so I've revised it to "The-Dream's instinct for composing melodies". isento (talk) 02:27, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Some reviewers had reservations." – this is a very vague statement; what reservations did they have, and why?
  • "remained impressed by the consistent quality" > "opined that the album has consistent quality"
    • I don't want to get too wordy here. I'll just remove "consistent", since that was the only problematic element in stating what she "remained impressed by" as fact. isento (talk) 02:27, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Legacy and influence

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Track listing

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Personnel

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Charts

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  • Seems fine

Certifications

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See also

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  • Fine

References

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  • Cite SOHH as |website= or |work= on ref 3
  • Use Cite AV media notes rather than Cite web for ref 5, since it seems the intent is to cite the liner notes
  • Ref 10 is |url-access=limited and not paid, since the NYT does give you some free articles
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  • Fine

Overall

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  •  On hold for now; I may not be able to respond in the following hours though. Wetrorave (talk) 16:34, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks. I'll get thru the rest later though. isento (talk) 20:12, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      • You seem to have addressed all the issues. The ones you didn't seem fine, since there is a stated reason for not doing each one of them.[c] I'm still not entirely happy with the article not having a combination of the artist's name with the release date separated only by a comma, like other articles do, but 'brilliant' prose is not a requirement of GA so it's not necessary.

In conclusion, this article is good to go:  Pass. Wetrorave (talk) 12:52, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ This would also reduce mentions of "songwriter-producer", a term that is mentioned at "prominent songwriter-producer"
  2. ^ Except if you have a time machine, as I do
  3. ^ Although relatively advanced, I'm not a native English speaker, which probably makes you more qualified to work on the prose than I do. I still think I'm doing reasonably well on the English Wikipedia with my work on the album portraying the stages of dementia but it's still imperfect.