Talk:Louis Cukela/Archive 1

Archive 1

Origin

I've neutralized the somewhat emotional references to Serbia and stuff, because a person from Split and/or Šibenik had very little to do with Serbia in the period 1888-1918. --Joy [shallot] 12:01, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Regarding book quotes, both are fairly pointless and baseless. How does one develop a Serbian accent if they never lived there? And, is that Serbian as opposed to Croatian accent, or Serbian accent in English, as opposed to, say, Italian? The McAdams quote is obviously an assertion and counts only as an opinion lacking other evidence.

The Croatian phone directory[1] finds a single person named Cukela on the island of Šolta (that's near Brač and Trogir). For reference, of the 1,479 people who live on Šolta, five were Serbs (census 2001). No idea if it's the Cukelas. --Joy [shallot] 12:12, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC) Google can't find me any reference to his father ("George Cukela") or mother ("Jovana Bubrich"). Where does this information come from? What would be their native names (not Anglicizations)? --Joy [shallot] 12:14, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well, Georges native name might be Djordje, or Goran (like Ivanisevic). And Jovana could be simply Jovana or Ivana (Joanna). If their names were Djordje and Jovana, there's a big chance he was Serbian, living in Croatia, because Djordje and Jovana are usually Serbian names... If Goran & Ivana, Louis could also be Croat living in Croatia. Hope it was helpfull, contact me if need more ifo —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.29.173.169 (talk • contribs) 16:03, 24 August 2005.

Yes. George could be Đorđe or Juraj. Why did you add Ivanica? We don't really know anything for sure, do we? --Joy [shallot] 22:06, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Completely bullshits, traditional serbian propaganda like they always do about our's sportmen and (recent) soldiers because they are inferior in that segment. That's traditional croatian coastal surname. There are no Serbs with such a surname. Like for his mother, Burbić (Burbich) are only Croats. You can find that surname only on the coast. And for someone born in Split, origins from Šolta George can be only Jure and nothing else. That's one of few most traditional croat's names in Dalmatia. I have checked that in directory of serbian surnames of Dalmatia, there are no that 2 surnames, like on imehrvatsko.net — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.137.208.65 (talk) 10:48, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Not Serb

Just because someone mistook him for a Serb doesnt make him one....

No proof for him being a Croatian either. Who did make mistake and when? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.252.34.126 (talk) 19:39, 25 February 2007 (UTC).

The fact Louis Cukela is listed as an Serbian-American is so wrong.... he has no known link to Serbia apart from being called it once in a book (by mistake).....

The name pronounced "Chu-ke-la sounds very Dalmatian in origin.

Solta is one of the closest islands to Split, in fact you can see it from Split. If his family was from Solta or Split i would say they are Dalmatian/Croatian and not Serbian.

For mine... many Dalmatians were called other backgrounds so its good to correct this for future generations to read. I think calling him Serb is a big mistake.

Evergreen

A Serb? LOL Čukela is from Split, there can be no possible explanation for claiming he's a a "Serb". --DIREKTOR ^(TALK) 22:52, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

My family is from Dalmatia and i am as Serbian as Serbian can be. I was brought up in Serbian culture and do not relate with Croatians on any level. Serbs lived all over Balkans, in present day Croatia, Macedonia, Slovenia, Bosnia... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.191.114.57 (talk) 05:57, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

---

Where on earth did they dig up that he's a Serb? Anyway... another article that specifically mentions the issue. http://www.military.com/Content/MoreContent?file=ML_cukela_bkp The Čukelas on Šolta are catholic. That Medal of Honor book just puts him down as a "native of Serbia" which is evidently wrong as he was born on what was Austro-Hungary then and Croatia now. The article itself says that his last rites were given in Church of St. Jane Francis de Chantal, a Roman Catholic church. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.198.137.24 (talk) 13:19, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Machineguns

In the World War I section that describes how he earned his Medals of Honor, it said he captured two undamaged machineguns. In the army citation in the bottom of the article, it says he captured two damaged machineguns. Which is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.6.120.181 (talk) 02:08, 14 April 2009 (UTC)