Talk:Lost in the Woods

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Lost in the Woods/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Unexpectedlydian (talk · contribs) 20:03, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I'll be picking up this review. Very much looking forward to getting stuck in :) Unexpectedlydian (talk) 20:03, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just starting the review using the table below. Unexpectedlydian (talk) 21:09, 28 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	This article is very clear well-written. Some minor suggestions are below: Lead Due to Kristoff's non-musical personality in Frozen, Groff hardly sings in the first Frozen film despite his musical theatre experience, by which critics and fans were disappointed. Very minor point to aid clarity - perhaps change to "Due to Kristoff's non-musical personality in Frozen, Groff hardly sings in the first Frozen film despite his musical theatre experience, which disappointed fans and critics." fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:09, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply] Context As someone who isn't very familiar with the plot, I was a bit confused about how Kristoff has just mistakenly proposed to Yelena, leader of the Northuldra tribe. Would it be possible to add a bit extra to this sentence to explain how this happened? Sure. I added "Kristoff has just accidentally proposed to Yelena, leader of the Northuldra tribe, whose silhouette he has mistaken for Anna's".--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:14, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply] Weezer version A full-stop is needed at the end of the first paragraph. Sentence no longer exists.--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:14, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply] Done
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	Lead The quotation marks around "Lost in the Woods" should not be in bold. Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:14, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply] Done
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	Background Disney has attributed Kristoff's lack of a song in Frozen to his characterization, explaining that a complete musical number would have been inappropriate for the character's personality and role in the film since, for the most part, he is "not the kind of character to break into song". I think this needs a name attribution as it's a direct quote (from Kay McGuire). Fixed. Attributed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:21, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply] and struggled to understand how his character could sing an entire song in the sequel without merely "shoehorn[ing] in a song" with little plot relevance... This could do with attribution as well. Reading the sentence, I thought it was a direct quote from Groff but instead it's summarising him and the Lopezes. Fixed. Added attribution for the quote.--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:21, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply] Context Its "intentionally cheesy" musical sequence is reminiscent of music videos from the 1980s... Another one where a name might be useful. (E.g. "according to X, its "intentionally cheesy"...") Fixed. Revised to "Its "intentionally cheesy" musical sequence is reminiscent of music videos from the 1980s, according to Jocelyn Noveck of the Associated Press".--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:24, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply] Music and lyrics Feeling "lost in the emotional landscape of a relationship" This one could do with a name attribution as well. Fixed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:30, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply] Weezer version Weezer previously covered "You Might Think" from Disney & Pixar's Cars 2. A citation needed tag has appeared for this statement. I've found a couple of possible sources for this claim, but feel free to add another: [1] [2] Hardly relevant within the context of "Lost in the Woods". Removed from article altogether.--Changedforbetter (talk) 17:30, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply] I see an IP editor has added (whom previously produced Fall Out Boy's Immortals from Disney's Big Hero 6), which is unsourced. As per your comment above, this probably isn't relevant to Lost in the Woods so I'd suggest removing. You are correct. Removed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 15:46, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply] Done
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	Writing and recording Ref [29] (Kidsworld) strikes me as being a less reliable source, and ref [18] (Iowa State Daily) covers the same information anyway. I'd suggest removing ref [29]. Source removed.--Changedforbetter (talk) 14:07, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply] Music and lyrics Ref [75]: Are piano arrangements of pop songs a reliable source for information about the original song? And is the arrangement from Musicnotes an official Disney arrangement? The publication is administered by Walt Disney Publishing but I'm not sure if that means it's a reliable replica of the studio recording. Several music and song-related articles use sheet music published on Musicnotes as their source for the original recording's key and tempo, so long as the publisher is legitimate - in this case, it doesn't get more legitimate than Walt Disney Music Publishing.--Changedforbetter (talk) 14:50, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply] Thanks, that makes sense :) Ref [79] mentions "Peter Sitara", but I'm assuming that they mean Peter Cetera? Correct. The article's author definitely meant to write "Peter Cetera".--Changedforbetter (talk) 14:50, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply] Done
	2c. it contains no original research.	Statements are backed up with sources - content that there is no OR. Done
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	Copvio detector flagged nothing of concern (just properly-sourced quotations). Also content with spot-checks. Done
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	This article covers all aspects of the songs: context, production, reception (and more). Done
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	Content that this is a focussed article, touching on related subjects (such as other songs) where necessary. Done
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	Points are handled neutrally. The reception portion of the article covers different perspectives. Done
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	Majority of recent changes are constructive and made by the nominator. Other changes have been appropriately addressed. Done
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	Images are relevant to topic, and have appropriate licenses. Done
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	Both images need alternative descriptions. Alt text added for all three images.--Changedforbetter (talk) 15:54, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply] Done
	7. Overall assessment.	Just had a final read through and happy for this to be promoted to GA. Great job! Unexpectedlydian (talk) 17:55, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply] Unexpectedlydian Thank you so much :)--Changedforbetter (talk) 18:10, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]