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A fact from Lorenzo Carfora appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 22 June 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that on 1 March 2023, Lorenzo Carfora became the first player born in 2006 to feature in a Serie B match?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lorenzo Carfora.

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The result was: promoted by Evrik (talk) 00:43, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that in April 2023, Lorenzo Carfora became the first footballer born in 2006 to start a match in an Italian professional league? Source: Translated and re-adapted from Italian: "Carfora is the youngest of all [these players], so much that he made his debut a month ago against Südtirol, having just turned 17! And in the latest league round, head coach [Roberto] Stellone played him from the start [against] Bari, allowing him to become the first player born in 2006 in Italy to make it to the starting XI."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/John Green
- Comment: I think it's notable enough, since the player has even "beaten" the better-known Simone Pafundi by achieving this feat. I must point out, though, that every single source I've used to justify this statement contains a slight error: they all state that Carfora is the first 2006-born player to start "in Italy", but he's rather the first one to do so in one of our three full-time professional leagues. In fact, it's very likely that other people already managed to do the same before him in the semi-professional tiers of the pyramid... On a side note, my QPQ review is not closed yet, but I hope we'll get it done soon.

Moved to mainspace by Oltrepier (talk). Self-nominated at 09:54, 8 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lorenzo Carfora; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Post scriptum: I've changed my QPQ submission, since I actually made a mistake by taking over Wembanyama's article (I had already reviewed it for GA status). Oltrepier (talk) 13:52, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

New enough, long enough. No neutrality problems found, no copyright problems found, no maintenance templates found. QPQ done. There's one unsourced section at the start of the International career section but that can quite easily be merged with the following sentence. The bigger problem you have is that Wikipedia prefers verifiability to truth; unless you have a source to say "full-time professional leagues", it can't really stand. I propose a different hook, something like

ALT1: ... that on 1 March 2023, Lorenzo Carfora became Benevento's second youngest player to feature in a Serie B match?--Laun chba ller 00:13, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: Whoops, sorry for reading your reply just now... I've made a few more edits to the article, accordingly: thank you for your suggestions. You're right about that dubious statement, as well: the thing is, I couldn't check if Carfora was indeed the first of his class to make a start in all Italian leagues without the risk of original research (I'm quite convinced someone had achieved the same feat before him in the semi-pro tiers, though). Plus, many Italian media have the bad habit of not linking their sources, so the citations I used couldn't help me on that front, either. Anyway, that's perfectly fine.

I like the new hook, but in my opinion, it might be more interesting to address that he's the first 2006-born player to feature in a Serie B match, as I reported on the article. What do you think about it? Oltrepier (talk) 08:15, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. I can't actually approve my own hooks, so I'll leave you to write it.--Laun chba ller 14:14, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: Sure! What do you think about this?

ALT2: ... that on 1 March 2023, Lorenzo Carfora became the first player born in 2006 to feature in a Serie B match? Oltrepier (talk) 07:44, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect. Good to go.--Laun chba ller 07:56, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]