Talk:Long Bình, Biên Hòa

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Be nice to have someones fact check this and find some other sources. IT could also use some elaboration on the social impact in the United States. Wikilost 03:48, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh my!

Not one mention of how Long Binh Post was the headquarters for USARV, housing 90,000 US Army personnel. LBJ was a very minor component of Long Binh Post. Most men (and women) stationed at Long Binh never saw the stockade, and probably could not tell you where it was located on the base. I only saw it because I was temporarily assigned to escort prisoners to work details. While conditions at the stockade did make the news back home, it should be seen in the context of widespread morale and discipline issues in the US military in Vietnam (marijuana and other illegal drug use was rampant on Long Binh Post and throughout Vietnam, for example). -- Donald Albury 16:14, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I'd absolutely love it if you added on here. I'm sorry the article focuses primarily on the riot, but that's what most of the available information covers. Sorry.Wikilost 01:27, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I need to find some published sources. My memories aren't reliable sources. Besides, I was only familiar with the USARV headquarters battalion ('Special Troops') area and a few other spots such as the PX, steam bath and USO club. I know there were an engineering battalion and a couple of field hospitals there, but I don't remember what else. The post had its own power plant, operated by a contractor. There were also a supply depot, an army air field and a Light Infantry Brigade base adjacent to Long Binh Post, but with their own perimeters, separated from LB Post by highways used by Vietnamese civilians. -- Donald Albury 09:51, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Precisely. I just couldn't find any data. Sorry. Wikilost 02:10, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Long Binh was a logistics and administrative base, built near Bien Hoa AB, in the middle of nowhere, to centralize commands & activities previously dispersed throughout Saigon. Long Binh was well defended and no major battle was fought there. except for some intense attacks during TET 68 and TET 69. History remembers battles, not bases. Long Binh Base made it into TIME magazine because of LONG BINH Jail, nicknamed LBJ, which was a pejorative reference to President Lyndon Baines Johnson. LBJ jail had a riot during a time of riots in America The footnote for Long Binh Post has the Time magazine reference and an Official map, which, when enhanced, shows all the tenants of the base. USARV is United States Army Vietnam, mentioned as U.S Army HQ Command. Long Binh NEVER had 90k troops, but there were that many in III Corps area around Saigon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daxmac (talk • contribs) 05:41, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When I arrived at Long Binh I was assigned to the II Field Forces which Later became USARV, there were numerious units there, including 23rd Field Atry Group Which had several units assigned to it as well. Long Binh was the location for many units. Units came and went frequently, with the fluidity of war. US Army archives must have a complete record. I was in the Headquarters Company of the First Signal Brigade, 1969-1970, for example. Long Binh Jail was associated with Headquarters 18th MP Brigade which was only a small part of Long Binh Post. LBJ was probably better known to GIs in other parts of Viet Nam because they might be sent there if convicted by Courts Martial. But nonetheless the LBJ article should be included in the Long Binh Post article.Alexselkirk1704 (talk) 22:50, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Long Binh Jail into Long Binh

Long Binh Jail has 5 links to it, Long Binh has a few more links to it, even though it was created after Long Binh Jail. There's already mention of Long Binh Jail in the Long Binh page/article. Long Binh Jail could be worth keeping if people had more info to put in it...there's quite a few web sites with personal recollections (all copyright) of Long Binh and its jail. A lot of links could be added in the Long Binh Jail page/article.

Alternatively, any "Long Binh Jail" info in Long Binh could be moved into Long Binh Jail

Or it might be better to have page/article on the "Long Binh Post" with a section on the Jail? There's probably a lot that could be said about the Long Binh Post — BlueOrb (talk) 15:00, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IMO the jail info is scrambled into the article with no coherant relationship to the rest. Without prejudice to any eventual move, i'm moving it into Long Binh Jail, and expect that will at worst be a step toward having a coherant narrative that can be slotted into the article on the place and the base. Jerzy•t 08:02, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Late in the war"

I reverted the insertion of "Late in the war" from the sentence about the amenities described at Long Binh Post. No source was cited for that statement. Almost all of those amenities were in place when I arrived at Long Binh in October, 1968, with the exception of the steam bath/massage parlor and USO club, both of which opened in early 1969. That hardly seems "late in the war." -- Donald Albury 11:10, 24 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Explosion at Long Binh ammunition storage facility

OK. Which date was it? One reference claims that 4 February 1967 was the date, and another claims that 28 March was the date. There was one hell of a explosion; I was 8 klicks away when it occurred, so I did witness it. The blast knocked out every window in our detachment's orderly room. No question about there being an explosion; however, I would think that the date of that explosion would be documented somewhere in the Army historian's archives and that we could at least agree on a date that the explosion did occur. The date of the explosion has been changed at least a couple of times to my knowledge. Any ideas how to make this bit of information verifiable to eveyones satisfaction? Is there a definitive, reliable history of the Post that exists so that a more complete article could be written? I would help with it, if such a source were available. Cuprum17 (talk) 14:05, 26 August 2011 (UTC) I am the reference that changed the date to 4 February 1967 because I was there that night and I knew it could not be 28 March because I was in the Sigon area at that time. I did find a Reuters news article on the internet that reported that event as being 4 February 1967 and also reported that was a Saturday which I did not know until I read that article 48 years after that happened. 4 February 1967 is the correct date for sure. There was an ammo dump explosion in 1968 also and both 1967 and 1968 are correct and were of course separate incidents. Tom Allaback. Updated 7/26/2015. I have copied and pasted the news article. The news article is dated February 5 and states the explosion occured yesterday which would be February 4.[reply]

I arrived at the 90th Replacement Center, Long Bihn, on my birthday, February 8, 1968. After 2-3 days I was assigned to the 199th Light Infantry headquartered just up the road at Camp Frenzel-Jones. I was trucked up to Frenzel-Jones and placed in a holding tent awaiting further assignment. Again, within one or two days, the ammo dump at Long Binh exploded. I was close enough that I was dumped from my cot by the shock and the dust obscured vision to several feet. My best estimate on the date of the explosion is between February 12 and February 15, 1968. 2602:306:CCC7:CE20:9532:D9EF:11F3:73A6 (talk) 17:41, 6 June 2017 (UTC)Jim Macy. Updated 6/6/2017.[reply]

SOUTH VIETNAM: Subset: Reuters TV - RTV Post 1957 Source: REUTERS OriginalDate: 4 FEB. 1967 Location: SOUTH VIETNAM Country: Vietnam VIET CONG EXPLODE U.S. AMMUNITION DUMP. 05 February 1967 Story ref: BGY506150102 Contains: 1 Clips Format: imx 30 STOCKPILES OF BOMBS AND ARTILLERY SHELLS AT THE U.S. ARMY AMMUNITION DUMP AT LONG BINH, IN SOUTH VIETNAM, ERUPTED YESTERDAY (SATURDAY) WHEN TIME CHARGES, PLACED BY VIET CONG RAIDERS, DETONATED AMID TONS OF HIGH EXPLOSIVES. THE EXPLOSIONS RATTLED WINDOWS IN SAIGON, ABOUT 13 MILES (20 KILOMETERS) AWAY. TWO US SOLDIERS WERE WOUNDED WHEN THE AMMUNITION DUMP EXPLODED. VIET CONG RAIDERS HAD CUT THROUGH A BARBED WIRE PERIMETER FENCE AND PLACED CHARGES AMONGST A STACK OF AMMUNITION. WHEN THE CHARGES DETONATED, LIVE SHELLS WERE TOSSED INTO OTHER STACKS OF AMMUNITION AND SEVERAL FIRES STARTED. IT TOOK US TROOPS TEN HOURS TO STOP THE FIRES AND EXPLOSIONS. THIS WAS THE FOURTH TIME THAT VIET CONG HAVE ATTACKED THE MASSIVE ARMS DUMP, WHICH COVERS AN AREA OF 3,000 ACRES.

I think this Reuters news report should be considered a reliabile source and should settle the question about the correct date which was 4 February 1967 per Reuters news report and my memory of the event. Tom Allaback updated 8-23-2015. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.185.186.148 (talk) 16:22, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Noted author Shelby Stanton cites 31 January 1968 for one explosion:^[1] Cuprum17 (talk) 20:40, 20 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

^ Stanton, Shelby L. (1985). The Rise and Fall of an American Army: U.S. Ground Forces in Vietnam, 1965–1973. New York, NY: Presidio Press (paperback). p. 226. ISBN 978-0-89141-827-6.

I was stationed at Long Binh from January 5, 1968 to May 28 1969 . The explosion at the ammo dump occured while I was there in 1968 NOT 1967 . The Tet offensive occured in February 1968 and to my recollection , the ammo dump did not blow up during that offensive . I think the March date is more accurate but I am sure if happened in 1968 ( I remember it like it was yesterday ).GHOSTRIDER930 (talk) 07:23, 22 November 2012 (UTC)Joe 930th Med Det Long Binh VietnamCite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page). I was there for it . We had been in the bunker all night and I had to go to the bathroom - the explosion came at daybreak and nearly blew over the outhouse.[reply]

It was January 31 1968. I was on guard duty on otter perimeter of back gate to ammo dump. Just a duty driver for the 75th Sup. Co on Long Binh.The Big blast went off at day break. There is a article in Vietnam mag by a Infetry Lt who describes the blast. He was in Ben Hoa when the blast rolled over them. I was about four hundred yards away when it went off. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.166.221 (talk) 19:39, 20 August 2013 (UTC) I was also in the 75th S&S CO. 1966-1967. There were at least two explosions at the ammo dump in the late 66-early 67 time frame. After the last, the biggest, we had to pull guard duty on the pads.Don schliem (talk) 05:47, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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[Stanton226-1] Stanton, Shelby L. (1985). The Rise and Fall of an American Army: U.S. Ground Forces in Vietnam, 1965–1973. New York, NY: Presidio Press (paperback). p. 226. ISBN 978-0-89141-827-6.

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