Talk:London Hughes: To Catch a D*ck
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[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:01, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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- ... that while waiting to film London Hughes: To Catch a D*ck for Netflix, London Hughes was offered a role on History of Swear Words to talk about dick? Source: I was waiting to film my special and I got to do History of Swear Words. Now that Netflix knew about my show To Catch a D*ck, they were like,"Well, maybe London could talk about dick on this," which is great
- ALT1: ... that London Hughes was stuck living in Los Angeles after moving to record To Catch a D*ck, shortly before COVID-19 led to travel restrictions and the recording's indefinite delay? Source: ... And then two weeks in, a global pandemic hit. The special didn't get canceled, but got put on hold. (...) I'm literally stuck in LA, because I can't go back to the UK because Trump put a ban on visas. I wouldn't be allowed back in America if I left.
- ALT2:... that after performing London Hughes: To Catch a D*ck at the Edinburgh Festival Fringe, London Hughes became the first black woman nominee for Best Comedy Show at the Edinburgh Comedy Awards? Source: Hughes originally performed To Catch a D*ck at the 2019 Edinburgh Fringe Festival, where she was the first Black woman to receive a nomination for Best Show
- Reviewed: Wabbit (video game)
Created by Bilorv (talk). Self-nominated at 22:37, 13 February 2021 (UTC).
- I'll review this one by tomorrow evening. On the basics: it's new enough, long enough, and QPQ is done. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 03:43, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- Scanning for any sourcing/policy issues, none jump out. Spot checking a few claims to sources checks out (minor thing might be that the source cited for it being "first performed" at The Pleasance doesn't verify that it was the first time it was performed, but that's not relevant to the hooks here).
- Hooks:
- I think the subject of the first hook is probably "hookiest" but I worry a little about making a claim of Netflix's motivation cited just to what the subject said in an interview. Like, maybe that was her interpretation rather than actually why? A quick search doesn't turn up another source which makes the connection.
ALT2 says "first black nominee" while the source says "first black woman".
ALT1 is a bit long, and IMO least interesting of the three.
- I think the subject of the first hook is probably "hookiest" but I worry a little about making a claim of Netflix's motivation cited just to what the subject said in an interview. Like, maybe that was her interpretation rather than actually why? A quick search doesn't turn up another source which makes the connection.
- In sum, I think we're good here. Just a matter of figuring out the hook. My order of preference would be the first hook if another source can be found or ALT2 with a wording adjustment per above. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 18:46, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ugh, ALT2 was wrong—you're right. Changed to "first black woman nominee". I kind of agree with you about ALT0 but tried to word it in a very straightforwardly true way in the hook: she definitely does talk about dick on the show (I can cite the show itself for this–specifically the fourth episode, "D**k"). Would the rewording below help? Maybe I need to change what is said in the article as well. I did look but I don't think any other sources mention this. As for the Pleasance being the first performance, I can see the concern but I am very confident in this one. The source cites Hughes saying in a tweet "Tickets for my new show are available NOW" so it is a new routine at the time (it would be quite rare to repeat a routine for the Fringe, I think).
- ALT3: ... that while waiting to film London Hughes: To Catch a D*ck for Netflix, London Hughes talked about the word dick in History of Swear Words?
- — Bilorv (talk) 19:26, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Bilorv: Ok. So my preference is for ALT3 at this point, with second choice for ALT2 (although anything you can do to trim that would be good -- it's pushing up against the limit). Two other things: in this context, I think it's clearer to say "the word dick" or "the word 'dick'". I went ahead and made that change, presuming it's ok, but change it again if you're not ok with that. Second, I'm assuming that this hook is covered by WP:NOTCENSORED. I feel like I've seen some cases of "shocking" material changed specifically for the main page, but will defer to the promoting admin to make that call. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 06:31, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yep, "the word dick" is good with me. I've had a hook go through with a quote "fuck you" which in hindsight was not really integral to the point of the hook, whereas this hook is on a show which contains the word dick throughout and is largely about penises, so I would be surprised if someone complained. — Bilorv (talk) 10:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- good to go for ALT3 (or ALT2 if necessary per above). — Rhododendrites talk \\ 06:31, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Some Dude From North Carolina (talk · contribs) 00:44, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- Add a short description to the top of the article.
- Done — Bilorv (talk) 21:00, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- "released in December 2020" - be specific for the lead.
- As in, "on 22 December 2020"? — Bilorv (talk) 21:00, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- "Netflix Is a Joke" → "Netflix Is A Joke" (actual title)
- Done — Bilorv (talk) 21:00, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- "in order to" → "to" (less wordy)
- Done — Bilorv (talk) 21:00, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- "Hughes landed a role in Netflix's History of Swear Words (January 2021) while waiting to film To Catch a D*ck: she said that "Now that Netflix knew about my show ... they were like, 'Well, maybe London could talk about dick on this'". The fourth episode of the series, "D**k", is about the word dick." - Try merging the sentences → "While waiting to film To Catch a D*ck, Hughes made an appearance in Netflix's History of Swear Words (January 2021); the fourth episode, in which she appeared, is about the word dick."
- Hmm, the meaning I'm trying to get across is quite nuanced. They approached her for History of Swear Words thinking the episode about the word dick would be perfect for her (because of this special's title and themes), but she appears in every episode of the series. How about:
While waiting to film To Catch a D*ck, Hughes landed a role in Netflix's History of Swear Words, the fourth episode of which is about the word dick; she appears in all six episodes, which were released in January 2021.
— Bilorv (talk) 21:00, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hmm, the meaning I'm trying to get across is quite nuanced. They approached her for History of Swear Words thinking the episode about the word dick would be perfect for her (because of this special's title and themes), but she appears in every episode of the series. How about:
- This works. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:03, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- "moved to the seaside aged 14" - reword (did you mean "at the age of 14"?)
- Done — Bilorv (talk) 21:00, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- "British Comedy Guide, who" → "British Comedy Guide, which" (company)
- Done — Bilorv (talk) 21:00, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- Run the automatic archiving tool.
- Done — Bilorv (talk) 21:00, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- Sort categories in alphabetical order.
- Done — Bilorv (talk) 21:00, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- Ping when done. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:21, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, Some Dude From North Carolina, all done or replied to. — Bilorv (talk) 21:00, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
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