Talk:Liu Sifeng

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What are people's thoughts on the trimming down?

In this edit, my "objective" description of Liu Sifeng having published several highly-cited papers on Grey Systems Theory (he has at least 3 with 1000+ citations on GS) was replaced by a much more subjective (and possibly not provable) statement that he is "best known for Grey Systems Theory". What do people think?

Also, in the same edit a lot of text was removed from the Awards and Honors section, including Liu Sifeng being listed as one of the top 2% of scientists by some Stanford University list, and German head-of-state Angela Merkel commenting that his work helped change the world. Should these really be taken out? Dr. Universe (talk) 02:17, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As far as descriptive sentence in the lede: I guess he's known also for his books, PhD students, etc. As far as other parts: the list is a reworking of the h-index and other citation counts to account for small "islands" of scientists that cite each other. I'm not of the opinion that it belongs in academic articles, and certainly it requires a better description. A neutrally-worded sentence about Merkel could go in, but I have some concerns about the the source used, and the source anyway only supports a weak sentence like "German Chancellor Angela Merkel mentioned Liu during a 2019 visit to Huazhong University of Science and Technology." Russ Woodroofe (talk) 07:33, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Russ Woorroofe that "A neutrally-worded sentence about Merkel could go in". Also, I found a stronger source^[1], at German Government's Press Office website (German language). Please have a look. If useful, i suggest someone with better skills edit the page. Researcherphd (talk) 1:18, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

References

^ Merkel, Angela. "Rede von Bundeskanzlerin Merkel an der Huazhong University of Science and Technology am 7. September 2019 in Wuhan". Bundeskanzlerin (in German). Press and Information Office of the Federal Government of Germany. Retrieved 24 June 2021.

The german source is a bit WP:PRIMARY, but it's at least independent. I went ahead and added it with a neutrally-worded sentence. Another editor may find it to be WP:UNDUE and remove; I don't personally have a strong opinion. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 12:10, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Merkel, Angela. "Rede von Bundeskanzlerin Merkel an der Huazhong University of Science and Technology am 7. September 2019 in Wuhan". Bundeskanzlerin (in German). Press and Information Office of the Federal Government of Germany. Retrieved 24 June 2021.

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