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A map
[edit]It would be interesting to illustrate the timeline with a map, where each building was represented by a box showing its block or quarter-block, labeled with the year wikilinked to the article about the building. YBG (talk) 07:27, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
- Here's the raw data:
year footprint west-east boundaries north-south boundaries address 1892 SE 1⁄4 block mid-block to 6th mid-block to Alder 537 SW 6th Avenue 1907 NE 1⁄4 block mid-block to 6th Oak to mid-block 309 SW 6th Avenue 1911 W 1⁄2 block 5th to mid-block Washington to Alder 522 SW 5th Avenue 1913 S 1⁄4 block Broadway to 6th mid-block to Morrison 621 SW Morrison Street 1927 W 1⁄2 block 6th to mid-block Taylor to Salmon 920 SW Sixth Avenue 1963 full block Broadway to 6th Taylor to Salmon 921 SW Sixth Avenue 1965 full block 3rd to 2nd Harrison to Hall 200 SW Harrison 1969 full block Park to Broadway Stark to Washington 707 SW Washington Street 1970 full block 5th to 4th Taylor to Salmon 900 SW Fifth Avenue 1972 full block 5th to 4th Jefferson to Columbia 1300 SW 5th Avenue
- Except for a few outliers in the South, it wanders around a small central area. A bit more obvious in the table above, but it would really jump out in a map. YBG (talk) 08:49, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
- Except for advanced SVG graphics rendered in a browser or a Flash object (neither of which is clearly supported by Wikimedia), I am not sure how to achieve the clickability. Do you know of an example? Assuming that is solved, the table data would also need to have the linked article. —EncMstr (talk) 16:40, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
- Nevermind. An example of how to do it is {{California County Labelled Map}}. —EncMstr (talk) 20:38, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
- Yes YBG, I think a map like that would be cool, if you're inclined to make it. Sounds like a lot of work, but I'd love to see it. I think the height of the building would be interesting to see represented too, but maybe that's too much for one graphic. -Pete (talk) 21:19, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
New Buildings to Add
[edit]This is the first time I have made such a post on Wikipedia, so please bear with me if I don't do it totally right.
Is there some reason why the Meriwether Condo Towers in the South Waterfront are not on this list? According to this page on the Emporis Web site, they were completed nine years ago, in 2006. The 21-floor East Building is 265 feet tall, and the 24-floor West Building is 303 feet tall.
If there is no reason for them to be omitted, would someone who knows what they are doing like to add them? I could try to do it myself, but I have never done it before, and I don't want to mess up this article.
If no suitable photos of these buildings are available, I have a couple which could do. Just let me know, and I can add them to Wikimedia Commons.
Thank you in advance for your feedback and assistance.
OregonBird (talk) 01:25, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- @OregonBird: Thanks for the suggestion—I have added the buildings to the table. Uploading photos of the buildings to Commons would be great. Conifer (talk) 06:16, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- I found that Commons already has one good photo of each tower – but it took some research to determine that, because the original descriptions on their file pages were a little too vague – and I have added them to the article (and expanded their descriptions on Commons). Thanks, OregonBird, for catching this omission. Of course, you are still free to upload additional photos if you would like, especially if they show different angles, or both Meriwether buildings in a single shot (lacking from Commons currently), etc. – SJ Morg (talk) 07:18, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- I have now uploaded a few more photos of the Meriwether condos, including one showing both towers in a single photo, and have expanded slightly the ultra-brief stub article on the Meriwether that someone recently created. – SJ Morg (talk) 04:53, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
- I found that Commons already has one good photo of each tower – but it took some research to determine that, because the original descriptions on their file pages were a little too vague – and I have added them to the article (and expanded their descriptions on Commons). Thanks, OregonBird, for catching this omission. Of course, you are still free to upload additional photos if you would like, especially if they show different angles, or both Meriwether buildings in a single shot (lacking from Commons currently), etc. – SJ Morg (talk) 07:18, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
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Outdated/incorrect info
[edit]Over the coming days I will be making some modifications to this page. I have noticed some facts which appear to be incorrect. I can already say for certain that Benson Tower is not the #30 building in the city. I cross-referenced data from the major sites and will unvail a new list here in the coming days with new rankings and official heights. I will deploy the list here at least 72 hours before I make the official changes to give anyone a chance to dispute the information. Salute! Masterscraper (talk) 06:57, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Building heights in Portland, as of February 2019. Building's 1-9 are fine. I did change the height of Park Ave West to reflect the architectural height and not the spire height; buildings in caps are not currently included on the list: Here are 10-35: 10) GRANT TOWER - 328 feet [tallest building outside of downtown Portland]; T-11) Mirabella/The Ardea/John Ross Tower - 325 feet; 14) MULTNOMAH COUNTY CENTRAL COURTHOUSE - Under Construction - Status: Topped Out - 324 feet; 15) Sixth & Main (Congress Center) - 321 feet; 16) Mark O Hatfield US Courthouse - 318 feet; 17) 735 ST CLAIR - 315 feet; 18) Moda Tower - 308 feet; 19) Merriwether West - 303 feet; 20) Lloyd Center - 290 feet; 21) 1000 Broadway - 288 feet; 22) NV - 287 feet; 23) MADISON TOWER - 277 feet 24) Portland Plaza - 272 feet; 25) One Main Place - 270 feet; 26) Broadway Tower - 269 feet; 27) Union Bank Tower - 268 feet; 28) Indigo at 12 West - 266 feet; 29) Aster Tower - 265 feet; 30) Merriwether East - 265 feet; 31) Umpaqua Bank Plaza - 263 feet; 32) Harrison East - 256 feet; 33) 200 Market - 256 feet; 34) Benson Tower - 250 feet; 35) Atwater Place - 247 feet. I plan to make changes to the list and some of the building articles over the next 72 hours unless the material is disputed. Masterscraper (talk) 21:12, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Masterscraper: I have not worked on this article much, and I assume you're proposing appropriate edits here, but I posted a note at WikiProject Oregon here just to put your comment in front of more editors. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:36, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
- All of the edits are sourced through looking at the contractor or architectural notes for most of the buildings, which I cross referenced with the traditional building info sources like Emporis, Skyscraperpages, and Skyscrapercenter. I also checked on some random things about some of the buildings. I'm not concerned with random changes, only the major ones. I have published all of my research on my reddit page r/skyscrapergeeks. The biggest changes I would propose would be to update the list and either bump buildings off of the list or expanding it to 35 or even 40 buildings, I have enough data that you could even do a Top 50. Grant Tower is #10, it's sister building Madison is #23; the other missing buildings are Multnomah County Central Courthouse (still under construction but architecturally topped out), and 735 St Clair which would be #17. Also, a name change for Congress Center to Sixth + Main. Masterscraper (talk) 03:05, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- The Courthouse will come out to be #14 btw so from #10 back all the buildings would need to be adjusted. The changes that I did make are minor. Using sources already provided, I changed the heights of two buildings (Broadway Tower & Park Avenue West). Broadway Tower is not yet listed on Emporis and the height is incorrectly listed on Skyscrapercenter. The plans for the building call for 269' as seen here: file:///home/chronos/u-2bd2aaae82c19fa10c31843542fcf3928f11d7bf/Downloads/October%2022%202015%20EA%2015-203240%20DA%20-%20Drawings.PDF ... I have no idea how to make this a useable link on wiki so I couldn't source the update for that building. The change in height for Park Ave West was based on architectural data not spire height, ironically it doesn't change the ranking but significantly effects the height, as according to wiki-standards (492'), the 460' architectural height would not be enough to meet skyscraper criteria (something i personally disagree with), so I changed it to a high-rise. The spire doesn't add square footage to the building, so it can not be included in the building's official height. I would rather not be the one to make the changes and I can provide the necessary sourcing info for the four missing buildings if someone else with more wiki experience is up for the challenge. Masterscraper (talk) 03:18, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- All of the edits are sourced through looking at the contractor or architectural notes for most of the buildings, which I cross referenced with the traditional building info sources like Emporis, Skyscraperpages, and Skyscrapercenter. I also checked on some random things about some of the buildings. I'm not concerned with random changes, only the major ones. I have published all of my research on my reddit page r/skyscrapergeeks. The biggest changes I would propose would be to update the list and either bump buildings off of the list or expanding it to 35 or even 40 buildings, I have enough data that you could even do a Top 50. Grant Tower is #10, it's sister building Madison is #23; the other missing buildings are Multnomah County Central Courthouse (still under construction but architecturally topped out), and 735 St Clair which would be #17. Also, a name change for Congress Center to Sixth + Main. Masterscraper (talk) 03:05, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Masterscraper: I have not worked on this article much, and I assume you're proposing appropriate edits here, but I posted a note at WikiProject Oregon here just to put your comment in front of more editors. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:36, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
- Building heights in Portland, as of February 2019. Building's 1-9 are fine. I did change the height of Park Ave West to reflect the architectural height and not the spire height; buildings in caps are not currently included on the list: Here are 10-35: 10) GRANT TOWER - 328 feet [tallest building outside of downtown Portland]; T-11) Mirabella/The Ardea/John Ross Tower - 325 feet; 14) MULTNOMAH COUNTY CENTRAL COURTHOUSE - Under Construction - Status: Topped Out - 324 feet; 15) Sixth & Main (Congress Center) - 321 feet; 16) Mark O Hatfield US Courthouse - 318 feet; 17) 735 ST CLAIR - 315 feet; 18) Moda Tower - 308 feet; 19) Merriwether West - 303 feet; 20) Lloyd Center - 290 feet; 21) 1000 Broadway - 288 feet; 22) NV - 287 feet; 23) MADISON TOWER - 277 feet 24) Portland Plaza - 272 feet; 25) One Main Place - 270 feet; 26) Broadway Tower - 269 feet; 27) Union Bank Tower - 268 feet; 28) Indigo at 12 West - 266 feet; 29) Aster Tower - 265 feet; 30) Merriwether East - 265 feet; 31) Umpaqua Bank Plaza - 263 feet; 32) Harrison East - 256 feet; 33) 200 Market - 256 feet; 34) Benson Tower - 250 feet; 35) Atwater Place - 247 feet. I plan to make changes to the list and some of the building articles over the next 72 hours unless the material is disputed. Masterscraper (talk) 21:12, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
Broadway Tower
[edit]Currently, the row for Broadway Tower has a "not in citation given" tag, and indeed, References [85], [86], and [87] do not say 269 feet, if I'm reading correctly. Might someone more familiar with this list be able to take a look and update the table? ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:21, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- The best option seems to be to just use the SkyscraperCenter figure (258 feet), as the other two aren't entirely reliable. I couldn't find architectural drawings or permits on the Portland government website that stated an exact height. SounderBruce 02:53, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- SounderBruce, Thank you. @Giants2008: Making you aware of this, per your note on my talk page. ---Another Believer (Talk) 02:54, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- The greater issue seems to be the overuse of unreliable sources like Next Portland and Skyscraperpage. I'll prune the list of them, but this may leave coverage gaps. SounderBruce 02:59, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- SounderBruce, Thanks for your help here. ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:00, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks from me as well. Hopefully we'll still be able to run this at TFL after the fixes. Giants2008 (Talk) 15:12, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- It would be fine to just comment out the un-cited sentence in the lead while the TFL is on the Main Page, then restore it later with the {{cn}} tag. SounderBruce 02:11, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
- I've commented out the sentence in the article and removed it from the blurb. Giants2008 (Talk) 17:23, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
- It would be fine to just comment out the un-cited sentence in the lead while the TFL is on the Main Page, then restore it later with the {{cn}} tag. SounderBruce 02:11, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks from me as well. Hopefully we'll still be able to run this at TFL after the fixes. Giants2008 (Talk) 15:12, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- SounderBruce, Thanks for your help here. ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:00, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
Lead image
[edit]The lead image identifies select buildings. Portland Marriott Downtown Waterfront could be linked as well. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:56, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
Park Avenue West height
[edit]Also commented on Talk:Park Avenue West Tower
why does this site say it's 537 feet with an "Occupied" height of 413 feet? That page is used as (current) reference #33 to put it into the skyscraper category. Jason McHuff (talk) 06:38, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
Status of Eleven West
[edit]Does Eleven West still belong under "Tallest under construction"?
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