Talk:List of sweetcorn varieties

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Genetically modified organisms are not varieties. They are just artificial manmade organisms, no matter at which point they ressemble the natural organism. Hence Genetically modified organisms are by science and by law commercial and trademarked products and cannot be included in any article in wikipedia except as an example in genetic engineering articles. Any attemp to do will be considered commercial advertising spam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.142.139.192 (talk) 11:21, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

any thoughts on other corn varieties that i missed in this article?Juliancolton 17:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of "triplesweets" such as "Honey Select" "Serendipity" "Avalon" "Tuxedo" Ancjr (talk) 16:02, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Correction: didn't mean to include "Tuxedo" as a triplesweet. Ancjr (talk) 07:55, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What about blue corn? I can't find it anywhere in Wikipedia, but it is a fairly common sight in grocery stores, eg. blue corn tortilla chips. Vernal Bogneris (talk) 01:37, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So far there is no sweet blue corn. Blue tortillas are made from blue dent corn. There are some varieties, such as Black Aztec, that can be used as a roasting corn while still in the milk stage (milk stage means the kernels have reached full size but are still milky soft inside). Perhaps a breeder will soon have a successful cross of a blue dent with a SE like was done with Ruby Queen (a red dent-SE cross). I'm sure someone's working on it. n2xjk (talk) 14:26, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Updating what I said above in 2009, varieties like Black Aztec and Hookers, now appearing in the list, are considered sweet corns. But for maximum sweetness, the blue color will only be barely showing on the kernels. If you let the ears mature to the point they are thoroughly blue, they have lost most if not all of their sweetness. n2xjk (talk) 14:54, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

added synergistic types and brief descriptions

I welcome any corrections. Ancjr (talk) 09:36, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The proliferation of Synergistic brands will make you dizzy

I took out the references to Sweet Gene, Sweet Generation, Triple Sweet and Sweet Breed, which are all trademarked names. Perhaps in the main sweet corn article these can be discussed, but here in the list of varieties it adds unnecessary clutter and complexity. Some seed catalogs make no mention of these brand names either, or only feature one brand name and its varieties while still carrying synergistics from other breeders anyway. n2xjk (talk) 22:44, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Very confused about "extra tender sweet" and "augmented supersweet"

Before I read this article I was a confused but successful sweetcorn amateur. Now I am very confused. Many, if not most, of the most popular sweetcorn varieties mentioned in UK forums are classified as "extra tender sweet" (in the RHS AGM list) or "tendersweet" (which I think may be the same thing). Of these there is the Mirai series, classified in this article as "augmented supersweet" but also the AGM varieties "Lapwing", "Lark", "Marshall's Honeydew", "Northern Xtrasweet", "Sparrow", "Swallow" and "Swift". For these "extra tender sweet" varieties, the seedsmen specify that no isolation is required whereas, the article says that isolation is required for the "augmented supersweet".

I suppose that the article is about the varieties most commonly available in the USA - it seems that the UK variety mix is radically different - but is it so different that the highest rated varieties in the UK are in a genetically distinct group from any USA varieties? If so, why does Mirai appear in both? If not, why is isolation not required in the UK but is required in the USA? I am very confused. TonyTebby (talk) 17:12, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Admittedly the terminology is confusing, especially when used inconsistently. I looked at the Thompson & Morgan catalog, and they aren't being consistent in how they specify the genetics behind their corn. From what I can tell, extra tender sweet is the same as augmented supersweet (isolation from non supersweets required, Mirai is an example), and tendersweet is synergistic (isolate from supersweets, but not other SE, SU and Synergistics). But then in the T&M catalog, in their description of Butterscotch, at the top it says supersweet, but then they describe it is also containing the SE gene. So they should have called it a extra tender sweet to be consistent with other such varieties. n2xjk (talk) 01:06, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I cut Lancelot from under the heading White se and pasted it under the heading Bicolor se, where it belongs. Refer to www.fedcoseeds.com for verification, if you like. Smaxam (talk) 06:03, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]