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Can a region with almost 2 million people really be classed as a suburb? When u check the website of the largest suburb, it says it is a growing CITY with 12 divisions. I think this page is a bit silly! 157.190.228.29 (talk) 09:54, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

-- I don't invent this, just compile lists, no limit on suburb population, as long as its subordinate to another city, remember these are actual government jurisdictions, not simply masses of people. Doseiai2 (talk) 22:30, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I'm pretty sure places like (and definitely not limited to) Inchon and Yokohama function as real cities on their own, given that they have their own economy. - anonymous, 10/30/10 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.250.236.140 (talk) 22:48, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cities for inclusion & sources

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Any reason for the change in the lower limit to 700,000? I saw it was 500,000 earlier, which seems like a more natural cutoff point than 700,000. Also, the list of sources was a good idea for inclusion, even if they are moved instead to the references.

--Reply: Is arbitrary, but reason for cutoff is simple statistical quality issues. Why cut off at 1 million when there is good data for smaller cities, but 500K becomes difficult to compile data, many smaller suburbs are so fast growing 500K is easily breached, but we simply don't have quality and quantity of information to determine this, data quality can be terribly poor and hard to come by (many nations w/o good census/estimate data, some no census in 30+ years!). So at 700K, the cities with poor data are largely weeded out. As data improves, we can change this, sure why not. Doseiai2 (talk) 22:30, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As for whether or not a city is considered a suburb, I think as long as they are not the principal city (i.e. Oakland would not be a suburb of San Francisco, even though it is smaller and in the same metropolitan area). I know the U.S. likes to add additional core cities to its MSAs (i.e. Dallas--Fort Worth--Arlington), but I think people would still consider most of the smaller cities (in this case Arlington) to be a suburb. Where this leaves Incheon, I'm not sure.

-- For the USA, if a city is inside the Combined Statistical Area but outside the Metropolitan Statistical Area, I would not consider a suburb. If its inside the MSA, usually a suburb, Blythe, California is a good example of what isn't a suburb of the core metropolitan region despite being part of the MSA. Doseiai2 (talk) 22:30, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So I would propose to bring the number back down to 500,000, as a list of only ~35 cities hardly seems to need its own wiki page, and to make the list sortable by column. Reade (talk) 16:47, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Nonstandard China? Wikipedia seems to like to say cities in China are non-standard quite a lot....but theres no explanation anywhere of what this means.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.174.58.161 (talk) 01:43, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

New Taipei City as a surrounding area of Taipei city and Taipei city itself, both are with wide areas not urbanized, therefore, the population of the external non contiguous urbanized areas should be deduced. I am not an expert, but it doesn't remove a lot for Taipei city about inhabitants, but probably 30% of its area. But New Taipei City has probably 10% less in population and maybe about 50% of area less (not to be considered as the suburb). BUT what I seriously miss, it is the Paris suburb, called "Petite Couronne", and at least a part of the "Grande Couronne". In details Hauts-de-Seine 1.6 m inh., Seine-Saint-Denis 1.5 m inh., Val-de-Marne 1.3 m inh and some contiguous areas of Yvelines, Seine et Marne and Val d'Oise, about 1 m inh, totally 5 400 000 inhabitants as suburb of Paris city. Thanks for adding, as I am new and feel uncomfortable to take risks to modify / maybe destroy the table itself :) comments added by Brukoe (talk • contribs) 16:00, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not "despite" but "because"

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"their city limits often are physically more extensive than entire metropolitan areas elsewhere despite including large swaths of rural areas"

No, the city limits are more extensive BECAUSE they include large swaths of rural areas. GeneCallahan (talk) 00:45, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

-- Feel free to reword if necessary. This is no pdf, this is wikipedia for all to improve.Doseiai2 (talk) 22:30, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Uncommon definition

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The article is based on an uncommon, non-worldwide definition of a suburb. --Mahmudmasri (talk) 08:30, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Fort Worth

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Fort Worth once appeared in this list, but was removed in an unexplained edit in January. There was a source given for FW, but it's a dead link now.

Fort Worth has now been listed in the "caveats" section, with a visible editorial comment that I'm not sure is appropriate.

No idea what to do here, or whether FW belongs on the list or not, just documenting the issue in case someone else wants to look into it. Thanks. Jessicapierce (talk) 06:13, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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