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Comments

Some of these minor political parties sound bogus, to be honest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nedtyler (talk • contribs) 19:46, 4 April 2007‎ (UTC)[reply]

Merger

I think we should split up this list and merge the pre-1949 ROC parties into Chinese political parties and other Taiwanese parties into List of political parties in Taiwan.--Jerry 21:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Translation

Can someone do the translation of the party names on the list?--Jerrch 21:36, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

romanization of DPP

It currently says DPP is pronounced "Míndìndǎng" for 民進黨. I'm pretty sure that first "d" is incorrect, that it should be a "j" or something like that. Can someone with better Chinese skills help out? Readin (talk) 06:47, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I changed it t a j.Yuan Lin (talk) 00:18, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

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Requested move

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. -- tariqabjotu 16:19, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

List of political parties in the Republic of China → List of political parties in Taiwan – WP:Common Name Uaat (talk) 06:45, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Split some of this page should exist in a list for pre-1950 China (when the ROC was still on the mainland) -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 08:17, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: The Tongmenghui has nothing to do with the 1895-1945 Japanese colony of Taiwan. -- 李博杰 | —Talk contribs email 09:03, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support the move, and split the historical paragraphs to List of historical parties in China, see also List of historical parties in Turkey.Fizikanauk (talk) 11:54, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support. List of political parties in Taiwan already redirects here. I suppose the article will have to be readjusted a bit, but that doesn't mean we need to leave it at this title. Kauffner (talk) 14:59, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:COMMONNAME and Taiwan. Split off the historical parties where necessary. Timrollpickering (talk) 16:37, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: Taiwan is WP:Common Name for Republic of China. But this includes historical parties. I think that it is better to take current parties up with historical parties. So the name 'List of political parties in the Republic of China' is appropriate for that. Sawol (talk) 11:46, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Sawol and Benlisquare. GotR ^Talk 17:26, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support per WP:COMMONNAME and the main article Taiwan.188.123.148.2 (talk) 05:15, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Single purpose IP. --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 20:25, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose split of this article. There is no material here to split. The Kuomintang is a continuous political entity from the time it rules Mainland China to its move to Taiwan. It makes no editorial sense to split this article. Those advocating a split of this article have not read this article as there is no coverage of so-called "historical parties" that existed prior to 1929.--Jiang (talk) 06:40, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment 1929? China didn't reacquire Taiwan until after WWII. -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 04:36, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - see Northern Expedition. 1929 is when the KMT unified the country and imposed a party-state. Of course there are parties that participated in the 1913 elections, as well as parties that operated on a limited basis during the warlord era, but those parties are not given any coverage in this article. As far as the existence of political parties in the Republic of China is concerned, 1949 serves no dividing line whatsoever, not in the way 1913 or 1929 does, so the proposal that this article be split at 1949 is plainly ridiculous. --Jiang (talk)
Oppose move and split. Move is imprecise and inaccurate given scope of article, and split is non-NPOV as it implies some kind of conceptual break, which is not true - several of the parties in the ROC in 1940 were still there in 1945 and still there in 1949 and still there in 1950 and still there in 1951 and still there in 1981 and still there in 2000. There is no conceptually appropriate line for splitting. It is not appropriate for Wikipedia to pander to certain political viewpoints by distorting historical fact. --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 20:22, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Aborigen party

Are there taiwan Aborigen party?--Kaiyr (talk) 14:10, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Split

I want to add content about Taiwanese political parties under Japanese rule and political parties in the ROC between 1912 and 1949, so I propose to split the article into "List of political parties in Taiwan" and "List of political parties in the Republic of China(1912-49)".--Coco977 (talk) 18:31, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose – RoC is the RoC. Japanese rule is dealt with at Taiwan under Japanese rule. RGloucester — ☎ 21:11, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

When readers search for "List of political parties in Taiwan", they should be able to find information about Taiwanese political parties under Japanese rule. If we put it under Taiwan under Japanese rule, readers couldn't.--Coco977 (talk) 16:40, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This article isn't about Taiwan. It is about the RoC. If you want to create a new article about elections in Taiwan across history, feel free to do so. RGloucester — ☎ 16:58, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If nobody objects, I'll change List of political parties in Taiwan into User:Coco977/sandbox and List of political parties in the Republic of China into User:Coco977/sandbox1.--Coco977 (talk) 17:07, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose the split as it is proposed. The Japanese-period entities are from an entirely different system. I would also hesitate to include pre-1949 detail as well on the same basis, although the history section is useful. I feel the post-martial law focus of this article provides a coherent topic. I can see the scope for separate articles on the other topics however, and note there is a very small amount of information on 1912-1949 Chinese parties at Chinese political parties. CMD (talk) 18:20, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

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Discussion invite

Hello. I invite you to join a centralized discussion about naming issues related to China and Taiwan. Szqecs (talk) 14:25, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 24 May 2017

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved. There is a consensus that the proposed title is a better fit, for consistency with the article on the country itself. Furthermore, there is consensus that the sections pertaining to pre-1949 can be split out to either a separate new article, or merged into Republic of China (1912–49). I'll leave that to interested parties to carry out, once the move is done. — Amakuru (talk) 10:29, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of political parties in the Republic of China → List of political parties in Taiwan – Is it better to rename/move this page to "Taiwan"? The section needs to include political parties when it was under Japanese rule. Supreme Dragon (talk) 18:46, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

Support, since the referenced topic is at Taiwan, not at Republic of China. --В²C ☎ 20:31, 24 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - since the article includes historical political parties before 1949, when the ROC ruled mainland China, it should keep the current name. -Zanhe (talk) 02:40, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom but I share User:Zanhe's concerns. The "Mainland China" section should be split off into another article (List of political parties in the Republic of China (1912–49)) or, better yet in its current state, merged into Republic of China (1912–49) or one of its sub-articles. — AjaxSmack 03:29, 27 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support Taiwan is the common name of the state. The name of ROC is so rarely used that it causes confusion to readers. Create a new article for List of political parties in the Republic of China (1912–49).--Coco977 (talk) 03:07, 30 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - The article still has historical context, and splitting the article into two doesn't help matters, especially since two editors at #Split opposed the split, originally proposed by Coco977. --George Ho (talk) 05:03, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support move per WP:COMMONNAME and support splitting the 1912–49 content to History of political parties in China. This should be the ideal article for those contents to locate. Fizikanauk (talk) 19:49, 2 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support move with same rationale as Fizikanauk above. Also support the creation of a new article on ROC parties (1912–49). Taiwantaffy (talk) 08:09, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support move per WP:COMMONNAME. There should be List of political parties in Taiwan and List of political parties in the Republic of China (1912-1949), since the political situations are drastically different between the two entities.Lysimachi (talk) 17:52, 8 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support as described by Fizikanauk above. --Khajidha (talk) 12:12, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
support – the country is known as Taiwan, the main political parties, where they have taken the name of the country, use Taiwan. The political parties from before 1949, which were active in China primarily not Taiwan, don’t belong. I don’t think they need their own article, they could be included in Republic of China (1912–49). But that is an editorial matter which can be addressed later. The best title for this is "List of political parties in Taiwan".--JohnBlackburne^words_deeds 00:27, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Any additional comments:

How about List of political parties in Taiwan/ROC? Szqecs (talk) 15:25, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Um... just... no. Just... no. (I don't want to say further.) --George Ho (talk) 16:47, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

To those favoring the name change and the split, did you also mean WP:CONSISTENCY, i.e. consistent with Taiwan? --George Ho (talk) 02:40, 10 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

To closer: This is a split proposal rather than a mere title discussion. Somehow, the RM procedure was used instead. --George Ho (talk) 01:39, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is a move proposal – we are trying to determine the best title for this article. As I noted above how it should cover political parties before 1949 is an editorial/content matter which can be addressed without a formal discussion at a later date.--JohnBlackburne^words_deeds 09:51, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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歡樂無法黨

Shouldn't the "Can't Stop this Party" (歡樂無法黨) be added to this Wikipedia page? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 21:40, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Incompleteness

There are 347 registered political parties in Taiwan, I believe. This page does not have all of them. Are there any good books that list them all? GoutComplex (talk) 01:20, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

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Cross-Strait position in New Party

The New Party was anti-communist in its early days, but it was pro-Beijing by the 2010s. It is questionable whether it is right to define the New Party's cross-strait position as "Unification under ROC". ProKMT (talk) 08:21, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]