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Listing accomplishments?

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In response to Black60dragon's edit

  1. I'm not a wrestling fan, but the stable doesn't seem to be any more "fake" than wrestling kayfabe. If you're saying they weren't really straight edge, I still think it portrayed straight edge culture (albeit possibly in an exaggerated way) and is worth mentioning.
  2. So now we're listing accomplishments? Do we need to add how many Grammys James Hetfield has won, how many all star games C.J. Wilson has appeared in, or how many gold records Rise Above has sold? I'm not trying to take away from CM Punk, but listing all his championships gives him undue weight in this article. I think the Notes column in this list should state their profession and a simple means of identification.

Hoof Hearted (talk) 17:04, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]


They weren't a Straight Edge group. Only Punk is/and/or was Straight Edge. The other members were fired for not taking up the lifestyle in public. This is by far not all of his accomplishments. Just what he is known for in wrestling. Hetfield is known as the leader of Metallica. Punk is known for being a 7 Time and the Longest reigning of the modern era. Its as long as the others and evens out. There are some others that are a longer description that his. Its fine to include. BlackDragon 18:45, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's clearly longer than the majority of others. The only mention that appears to be longer than Punk's is Hetfield's, and what makes his longer is a fact about straight edge that has relevance to the article. Listing four of Punk's accomplishments is far too much information. I'd let one slide, but four is way too much. Also considering it is no secret that WWE wrestling is choreographed and winners are pre-determined, Punk's wrestling accomplishments are exactly as fake as the 'Straight edge society', in my opinion anyway. Between the fake society and the fake accomplishments I believe the society had more relevance to this article, so I preferred Hoof Hearted's version, but as long as it gets shortened from its current version i'll be happy. Freikorp (talk) 22:03, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If you don't want to mention the Straight Edge Society, then I think Punk's description should read "professional wrestler for the WWE". Hoof Hearted (talk) 19:40, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Names needing sources

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Please list here names with poor sourcing, then tick when the name is restored.


Disputed sources

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Current straight edge people

  • Hopsin[1]
  • James Hart[2]
  • Levi Benton[3]
  • Matt Davies-Kreye's[4]

Former straight edge people

  • Brendan Murphy[5]
  • Rick Rodney[6]

References

  1. ^ "Hopsin Talks Slowing Down On Diss Tracks, Being Straight Edge On Tour & His Retirement Hoax". TheNEHipHop. YouTube. July 20, 2015. Event occurs at 1:45. Retrieved January 10, 2016.
  2. ^ Joelle (April 28, 2010). "On The Verge: BURN HALO Straight-Edge Stories". Planet Verge TV. YouTube. Event occurs at 3:53. (James Hart)
  3. ^ "Levi Benton of Miss May I Shares His Natural High". Natural High. YouTube. June 12, 2012. Retrieved May 15, 2016.
  4. ^ "Matt Davies-Kreye's Twitter". Retrieved May 15, 2016.
  5. ^ "Counterparts - Straight Edge - RealFeels". Natural Feels. YouTube. March 23, 2015. Retrieved May 15, 2016.
  6. ^ "STRIFE's Rick Rodney Explains Why He "Escaped" From The Straight Edge Way Of Life!". HornsUpRocks.com. YouTube. January 28, 2013. Event occurs at 2:22. Retrieved May 19, 2016.


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Non-notable people

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This list include many red links and individuals without Wikipedia articles of their own. I propose removing them and keeping only independently notable people. ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:30, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I didn't mind so much when the list was small and had few people in it, but it's more than big enough now to only require blue linked people. Freikorp (talk) 03:08, 2 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Just following this up since no action was taken. I propose deleting every single entry for people who aren't notable enough to have their own article. There needs to be a firm line drawn as to who is famous enough to be added to the list. Damien Linnane (talk) 23:45, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Blogspots

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I thought you didn't do or accept blogspots. Hypocritical much? Useless. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:554E:7801:C82C:A8E2:4830:144F (talk) 02:26, 30 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We don't (and neither should you!). I'll tag them for improvement. Hoof Hearted (talk) 19:09, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm relocating the people only supported by blogs from the main-page to below. Damien Linnane (talk) 02:31, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Chris Motionless Lead singer, founder and frontman of Scranton-based heavy metal band Motionless in White.[1]
Duncan Patterson Musician known for his work in Anathema and Antimatter.[2][better source needed]
Justin Lee Brannan Founder of hardcore band Indecision.[3][better source needed]
Matt Pizzolo Award-winning film director, screenwriter, producer, comic book writer, playwright and entrepreneur.[4][better source needed]
Yishai Romanoff Founder and lead singer of the Hasidic hardcore punk band Moshiach Oi!.[5][better source needed]

Former

Bradley Soileau Model, DJ, producer, and designer.[6][better source needed]
Derrick Green Singer of Brazilian heavy metal band Sepultura.[7][better source needed]
Vic Bondi Singer and co-founder of political Chicago punk band Articles of Faith.[8][better source needed]
Roger Miret Vocalist.[9]
Pete Kowalsky Lead vocalist for hardcore punk band Remembering Never and former for Bishop.[10][11]

References

  1. ^ Shadow (26 November 2010). "Interview with Chris Motionless". Retrieved 30 November 2020.
  2. ^ "Grace Road - Entrevista a Duncan Patterson 2020". Notas de un Fan. Retrieved 16 May 2020.
  3. ^ Justin (November 2009). "Indecision - straight edge or not?". Stuck in the Past. Retrieved 25 May 2016.
  4. ^ "Matt Pizzolo director of Threat". SuicideGirls. 19 April 2006. Archived from the original on 27 December 2014. Retrieved 21 March 2017. [...] I was straight-edge and many of my friends were, so it just made sense to include straight-edge characters. I don't wear Xs on my hands to shows anymore, but I've never had a drink, never used any drugs... [...]
  5. ^ Croland, Michael (30 November 2008). "Moshiach Oi: Punk With an Authentic Jewish Focus". heebnvegan.blogspot.com. Long Beach, New York. Archived from the original on 8 December 2008. Retrieved 15 August 2017.
  6. ^ Kang, Teena (28 June 2012). "The WILD Life of Bradley Soileau". The Wild Magazine. Los Angeles, California. Archived from the original on 3 July 2012. Retrieved 9 May 2016.
  7. ^ Szeleczky, Afrodite (11 April 2018). ""It's the Real Machine Messiah, it has come!" – Exclusive Interview with Sepultura Frontman, Derrick Green". Mytoucheblog.com. Archived from the original on 15 May 2018. Retrieved 15 May 2018.
  8. ^ "Vic Bondi from Articles of Faith interview (2006)..." youbreedlikerats.blogspot.com (published 14 May 2008). 2006. Archived from the original on 18 June 2008. Retrieved 16 May 2017. I was straight edge for about six months. Ian still is. God bless him for that. For everyone else, let's have a beer.
  9. ^ Flanagan, Harley; Begnal, Anthony. ""IS IT OVER? DO HOOKERS STILL BLOW????" | ROGER MIRET". www.hardcorehalloffame.com. Archived from the original on 27 October 2007. Retrieved 31 October 2017.
  10. ^ Karma E. Omowale (2004). "Interview Mean Pete: Remembering Never". FourteenG. Archived from the original on 13 January 2005. Retrieved 28 May 2013.
  11. ^ "An Interview with REMEMBERING NEVER's Peter 'Mean Pete' Kowalsky". theoutcastnation.wordpress.com. 15 November 2013. Retrieved 21 April 2017.

Snoop Dogg

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Why is Snoop Dogg on this list? I'm almost certain that he regularly smokes on live streams to this day. I guess I don't have a citeable source that says that, though. 67.187.170.28 (talk) 19:22, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm guessing that was an act of vandalism. The source used to support his addition to the list did not even mention him. I'm removed him accordingly. Damien Linnane (talk) 00:14, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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