Talk:List of people who disappeared mysteriously: pre-1910

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Section sizes

Section size for List of people who disappeared mysteriously: pre-1910 (6 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	965	965
Before 1800	26,960	26,960
1800 to 1899	27,927	27,927
1900s	3,072	3,072
See also	524	524
References	219	219
Total	59,667	59,667

Centralized discussion

A central place to discuss issues related to both this article and List of people who disappeared mysteriously: post-1970 is Talk:List of people who disappeared mysteriously. -- GreenC 01:51, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed addition of an edit notice

This article is plagued by editors adding disappearances that do not already have articles. In most cases the editors are adding disappearances that they have seen in some mystery site or blog. There is already a warning to add entries only if an article already exists, but it appears obscurely at the top of the edit page and is not seen if editing only one section. I propose to add an edit notice. These are displayed prominently whenever any part of an article is edited. The proposed wording is:

Every entry in this list must already have an article written about the person or their disappearance. If you cannot link to such an article, your edit will be removed.

To see how effective this warning is, go to List of bus operating companies and open an edit of either the entire article or just one section of it. Akld guy (talk) 06:28, 4 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please add Raoul Wallenberg

See Raoul Wallenberg for more information about him. 14.139.155.19 (talk) 10:41, 28 January 2019 (UTC)shrao[reply]

Wallenberg is listed in the 1940s section, but the date is given as 1947 instead of 1945. Maybe that is why you thought he was missing. I'll change his entry to 1945. Akld guy (talk) 20:31, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done, and amended OP's link because references appearing all over this page are untidy. Akld guy (talk) 20:40, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Amelia Earhart

How come she isn't on this list? Should she be? Urstadt (talk) 05:55, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

She was, until this edit by @Drown Soda: on 15 May. The edit deleted entries from the following sections:
- Before 1800 – 30 entries --> 19
- 1800–1899 – 31 --> 24
- 1900s – 5 --> 4
- 1910s – 11 --> 10
- 1920s – 20 --> 16
- 1930s – 23 --> 17
- 1940s – 37 --> 32
- 1950s – 19 --> 14
- 1960s – 26 --> 22

A total deletion of 44 entries. On a quick assessment, they do not appear to have been inadvertently deleted, but appear to consist of people lost at sea. These deletions might be controversial, and should have been discussed here on the talk page, rather than being sneaked through as part of a table formatting improvement. It is a lot of work to go through and make a list of the deleted entries. I tried, but even the pre-1800 section took way more time than I can spare. It might be quicker to revert the article to the version before Drown Soda's edit. Asking for suggestions on what should be done. Akld guy (talk) 21:49, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Akld guy:, I noted in the edit summary (or at least thought I did) that I relocated these to their own entry of people who disappeared at sea in an effort to pare down the bulkiness here; the sheer number of entries that occurred over/on the sea was large enough to warrant an article in and of itself (especially because these disappearances have in common the theme of air/water travel). --Drown Soda (talk) 22:21, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You mentioned the new lost at sea article in the edit summary of the post-1970 article but not the pre-1970. I'm OK with this move. -- GreenC 22:31, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Now that I understand the rationale, I'm OK too, although it still might have been better to seek consensus here first. Akld guy (talk) 23:03, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And I've added that new article to my watchlist. Akld guy (talk) 23:08, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If we are going to do it this way, then we need to be more consistent about it. There are still entries in both lists pertaining to persons and aircraft that were lost at sea, including last known locations being above a body of water. They should be moved to the respective page.

Please erase the Nanking battalion

The 'disappearance' of the Nanking battalion can't be corroborated in any reputable sources, not even Japanese ones and not even from Allied investigations into the Rape of Nanking where it surely would've been mentioned; as such, it should be erased at least for now. https://www.thatsmags.com/shenzhen/post/16471/tales-from-the-chinese-crypt-did-3000-chinese-soldiers-truly-disappear-in-1939

--177.227.50.27 (talk) 02:51, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Should add

Theodosia Burr 2601:743:201:AEC0:6DD6:371B:A6B7:9EF9 (talk) 20:04, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Arthur, Duke of Brittany section has incorrect links

The Arthur section (#12) references Hugh de Burgh, but when you click on de Burgh's article, it shows that he was died in 1352. I believe the section is supposed to reference Hubert de Burgh. Ohno!abigcat (talk) 03:20, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yasuke

Yasuke is currently included in the list, perhaps on the basis that he falls out of the historical record after the Honnoji Incident. This seems an inappropriate inclusion, given that we have no sources indicating that he was considered missing at the time. I will remove this entry. Rotary Engine ^talk 01:42, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]