Talk:List of medieval composers

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Remove composers with no surviving music

I added some slight formatting to indicate troubadors whose music does not survive (it's no fun to read through a long composer bio just to learn you can't hear their music!), but I am considering deleting them. Otherwise, couldn't the entire list of troubadors just be copied to this page?

I deleted the talk entry before mine because it didn't make sense; looked like someone pasted a homework question?

OphidianD (talk) 17:52, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with keeping the names of the composers whose music didn't survived. They still were influencial for the History of the music in a way or another.82.154.84.92 (talk) 01:26, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Page name

On 9 April 2008, this page was moved from List of Medieval composers to Medieval composers, the only ever edit by user 1piolin. To have consistency with other similiar lists, I suggest to move this page back. See also: Special:WhatLinksHere/Medieval composers. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 14:41, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Byzantine hymnographers and user 101.160.148.192

When I first got to this article, a few days ago, I was very surprised not to find any of the most important Byzantine hymnographers in it, especially Romanos the Melodist who is such an important name. Of course I immediately inserted Romanos the Melodist. Then reading through the history of the article I noticed that Romanos the Melodist and other Byzantine hymnographers such as John of Damascus and Cosmas of Maiuma had already been included for about 4 days between December 23 and December 26, 2011. The user who inserted and erased them was one user 101.160.148.192. This same user also "worked" on articles Alfonso II of Aragon and Planh (and others) and the same pattern shows: he first inserts information, which seems valid, and then he erases it all. Weird. Signed: Basemetal (write to me here) 08:58, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The lost music of Romanos the Melodist

I've inserted Romanos the Melodist in italics as no notated Byzantine melody can be attributed to him with certainty. However Egon Wellesz in "A history of Byzantine music and hymnography" suggests some of his melodies may have survived in the tradition and may have ended up being notated when the ekphonetic notation began developping. Signed: Basemetal (write to me here) 08:58, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Link for Andrea Stefani

The link goes to an Albanian newspaper and I can't find Stefani's name in Wikipedia except for the journalist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.190.94.110 (talk) 20:43, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

images

Does anyone else feel that the images, which take up much more space than anything else, are superfluous for the list? I think it'd be better just to have names, dates, links, nationality, and maybe a short comment rather than the images. Thanks! -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 22:45, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. The place for the images is on the individual pages for each composer – where I guess they already are in most cases. --Deskford (talk) 22:51, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Chretien

Anybody know why Chretien is counted here as a composer with extant musical works? Refs please! Redheylin (talk) 14:22, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Reminder to find info on

Geltar and Der von Scharfenberg?? Aza24 (talk) 01:45, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

340 Year time gap

If the medieval era of music started at around 500 CA, why are there no composers on here born before 840 CA, 340 years after the start of the medieval era? Wikieditor662 (talk) 23:09, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ranking

I have added a column for 'ranking' to draw attention to the most important composers. Needless to say this is highly subjective. Doubtless the finer points of who should or should not be highlighted in this way will cause much discussion amongst those with greater knowledge than I.

As a simple way to organise the sorting I used the number of recordings available for that composer on [Presto Music]. Star ratings were then assigned on the simple divisions:

less than 100 recordings
between 100 and 1,000 recordings
over 1,000 recordings

The same system has been used on the other composer lists, so for consistency I have used it here even though there are no 3 star Medieval composers. Agrestis (talk) 03:29, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why does the number of recordings a composer has indicate their significance? And is it worth it to add something that is highly subjective? Wikieditor662 (talk) 03:32, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Both good questions. I apologise because I should have explained my reasoning in my original posting.

The number of recordings is a good indication of how significantly the composer is favoured by the musical community as a whole. If musicians go to the effort to record and release that piece then they must consider it worthwhile. Collectively they are thus passing judgement. This is therefore along the lines of an opinion poll of the global musical community, which is about as close as we can get to an objective answer to the question 'which composers are best?'. It also has the advantage of being verifiable and easily available.

It is worthwhile to have these ratings because it draws attention to those composers for readers of the list. Not every reader is an experienced musician or will know much about classical music so they may have no idea who the important composers in that era are. These lists have become very long and are overwhelming. Without the rating column they are really only of interest to those who care about articles on very minor composers. With the rating column they become of use to the general reader. Agrestis (talk) 03:52, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These are good reasons, thank you. Wikieditor662 (talk) 03:58, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]