Talk:List of mass graves from Soviet mass executions
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Misrepresentation of the Sources
[edit]I'm looking at the sources for the number of people killed and most figures are misrepresented in the article. Corrected them for accuracy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.79.193.120 (talk) 13:07, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Reason for creation
[edit]Peeled off from the main article about Mass graves to eliminate POV disputes RaveenS 18:34, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
No, no, no
[edit]- "The government of the USSR under Stalin murdered many of its own citizens and foreigners" - this article is about Nazi mass graves. Is any relation between the government of the USSR and Vinnitsa?????? RTFM
- The picture is from Germany
- The article is only about Nazi mass graves, so the title is unprecise.
- The text should be included into a historical or Holocaust article. It's not a complete article.Xx236 16:24, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
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Operation Barbarossa and the mobile killing squads
[edit]On June 22, 1941, the German army invaded Soviet territory. German soldiers were very brutal in their dealings with the Soviets. Small units of SS and police, some three thousand men in all, were also dispatched to kill the unwanted individuals on the spot: Jews, communists, Gypsies, political leaders, and the intellectuals. Almost 90% of the Jews were urbanized, living in large cities where the rapid advance of the army and the swift action of the mobile killing units left them unaware of their fate, paralyzed, unable to act. There were five stages to the killing. The invasion was followed immediately by the roundup of the intended victims. Those rounded up were marched to the outskirts of the city where they were shot. Their bodies were buried in mass graves - large ditches were filled with bodies or people who had been shot one by one and buried in mass graves. The residents of these cities could see what was happening. They could hear the shots and the victim's cries. Most often, they remained neutral, neither helping the killer nor offering solace to the victim. Frequently, local pogroms were encouraged by the Wehrmacht, especially in Lithuania and Latvia. Before this phase of the killing ended, more than 1.2 million Jews were killed. --178.34.158.127 (talk) 18:27, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
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Contents updated, title change needed?
[edit]This page has been thoroughly revised and all entries referring to Russia from Smolensk to western Siberia updated in line with current knowledge.
Since dozens of burial grounds and killing fields of the Soviet era were identified and memorialised in the late 1980s and 1990s Books of Remembrance commemorating those shot or imprisoned between 1918 and 1987 have been compiled across the former Soviet Union and the identity of tens of thousands of victims has been established and linked to particular sites.
There is now a major online resource in English about such sites -- Russia's Necropolis of Terror and the Gulag.
The website was first launched in Russian in 2016 by Irina Flige of St Petersburg Memorial (and the Joffe Foundation). She is today a recognised authority on the subject and is often quoted in the newspaper articles supplied as references throughout this page -- even when the discovery was made in Vladivostok!
As concerns the current title.
Evidently there has been some debate in the past about who was responsible for certain mass killings in the Soviet Union. It is important to say clearly and firmly that whatever happened after 1939, it was the Soviet NKVD that systematically arrested, shot and concealed its victims bodies before then, especially in the 16 months of the Great Terror. I suggest, therefore, that the clumsy title of this page be changed to "Mass Graves in the Soviet Union".