Talk:List of highest-grossing anime films

Detective Conan - Movies 1-3

In the highest-grossing film franchises and film series section, the box office figures for Detective Conan's first three movies are missing. The earnings of these three movies are actually documented, but the figures are all in Japanese yen. The only somewhat reputable website citing the figures in US dollars is IMDb, but it was pointed out to me that IMDb is not generally used for Wikipedia since it is mostly edited by users. With that said, I wonder how we can address this gap of information? It would be somewhat disingenuous not to include the box office of these three movies simply because we do not have their USD figures, since we do know how much they earned, just that they are in JPY figures. ScalaAdCaelum (talk) 07:07, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Detective Conan - Movie 6

In the highest-grossing film franchises and film series section, the box office figure for Detective Conan: The Phantom of Baker Street (2002) is $24,387,667, based on its Box Office Mojo page. However, if you look at the source an editor used for both Detective Conan: Captured in Her Eyes (2000) and Detective Conan: Countdown to Heaven (2001), the earnings for Phantom is actually at $33,000,000. This is in line with my previous two concerns. Box office figures are not always as updated as they can be, even in sites like Box Office Mojo (which is actually handled by IMDbPro). Would it be acceptable if we update the figure of Phantom based on the same source as Captured and Countdown or should we find another source altogether? I'm admittedly a fan of the series and as much as possible, I would like to have the box office figures of all the movies updated and corrected on this Wikipedia page. If we can be as methodical in updating figures for movies like Demon Slayer and Spirited Away, I hope we can do the same for the Detective Conan movies. ScalaAdCaelum (talk) 07:07, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

I've had similar issues with Box Office Mojo. I've found that it's not a very reliable source for Japanese box office figures. For most Japanese films I've seen on BOM, it stops tracking the Japanese box office numbers after the first few weeks (or 1-2 months at most). However, Japan is a "legs" market rather than an "opening" market. In contrast to most other markets, where successful films open big and then drop out of theaters after a few weeks, in Japan films tend to open small and have longer legs throughout the year. As a result, BOM does not give complete Japanese BO figures, but only the amount for the first few weeks (or 1-2 months at most), not the entire year. The most reliable source for annual Japanese BO figures is Eiren which is published by the Motion Picture Producers Association of Japan (MPPAJ). They provide complete Japanese BO numbers for films that ran throughout the year, not just the first few weeks like BOM does. To get the complete annual Japanese BO figures, it's best to use Eiren and convert the yen figures to dollars based on conversion rates in the year of release. Template:To USD has a function that handles currency conversions for different years. Another reliable source is Kogyo Tsushin which provides complete lifetime box office figures for the top 100 films in Japan. However, it's difficult to use currency conversions with that source, as there's no breakdown of how much a film grossed in any specific year. Maestro2016 (talk) 22:44, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Currency conversions need to be done by the sources themselves, or else we're engaging in WP:Original research. The solution to poor sourcing is not WP:Original research. TompaDompa (talk) 23:16, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

A basic currency conversion (for the appropriate year) falls under WP:CALC, not WP:OR. There is no WP:SYNTH involved, so OR does not apply here. Maestro2016 (talk) 23:19, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

You're mistaken. Currency conversions are not WP:Routine calculations (for one thing, exchange rates can vary quite a bit during the course of a single year). This has been discussed, see Wikipedia:No original research/Noticeboard/Archive 45#User-performed currency conversions. TompaDompa (talk) 23:22, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

That looks like a very lengthy discussion. I'll have a look at it some other time then. Maestro2016 (talk) 23:28, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Both

Should there be a list of highest grossing Japanese films featuring both live action and anime Japanese films I started A draft for it see Draft:List of highest grossing Japanese films 92.236.253.249 (talk) 18:47, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I think that's a good idea. Makes more sense to me than having List of highest-grossing anime films and List of highest-grossing Japanese live-action films separately, and matches how we treat other countries better too. I think the draft is a bit unnecessary—we can just do it at List of highest-grossing Japanese films directly (it's currently a redirect to Lists of highest-grossing Japanese films, a WP:List of lists). When it's done, both these pages should be turned into redirects. TompaDompa (talk) 22:53, 12 March 2022 (UTC)