Talk:List of highest-grossing Indian films/Archive 1

Merge discussion

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There are numerous different articles about one basic thing - revenues of Indian films. All this needs to be consolidated and properly defined, as the current maintenance of several such articles is a mess, an article maintenance problem, and there is bound to be plenty of contradictory details among them all. In the merged article, the top-grossing films would be centralised, ideally with separate columns for domestic and global returns. The "Hundred Crore Club" concept could be mentioned, as this seems to have sources, but it boils down to a list of top-grossing films. Furthermore, it might be appropriate and clearer to rename this article to List of highest-grossing Indian films. This multi-way merge will take some work, but is clearly justified in view of the current redundancies. Dl2000 (talk) 04:47, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

• Partial Support as per the reasons given above by Dl2000 but I oppose the merging of Bollywood figures into that of all the Indian films. Please wait for the discussion at the article's talk page to complete. - Jayadevp13 05:35, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
• support - although the "100 crore club" article probably could survive as a text only article that talks about the concept of the "club" - not lists of the individual films, etc.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:10, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
• Support per Jayadevp and TRPoD above, just the films, and not the Bollywood figures. Ruby Murray 12:54, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
• Support: My suggestion is, the final version of merged article should contain only CBFC certified films. Not be biased an bollywood or kollywood or tollywood or any other, since it could raise some issues/disputes. I oppose for the concept of 'Hundred crore club', it seems additional glorification for the films more than the revenue mentioned. --βα£α(ᶀᶅᶖᵵᵶ) 13:20, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
• Partial Support Well, it's a good idea to merge related articles into one and make it accessible to internet user in on go, however, Bollywood is the oldest among its local contemporaries with its own rights, figures, values and representation, therefore, I'm of the opinion as User:Jayadevp13 of representing just the films in List of highest-grossing Indian films but Bollywood figures. Bolly. figures should be represented in List of highest-grossing Bollywood films itself. Salman 11:04, 3 January 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samsujata (talk • contribs)

@Dl2000, TheRedPenOfDoom, Ruby Murray, Balablitz, and Samsujata: Added Bollywood highest grossing films by month to the merge list. I thought that I should inform you all about it. The article has been maintained comparatively well till now though. - Jayadevp13 16:41, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

@Jayadevp13:  Great!. Good move. --βα£α(ᶀᶅᶖᵵᵶ) 04:09, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Comment The most appropiate is to create a page titled "List of highest-grossing Indian films" and merge all these pages!

• Decline. As the major sources like TOI and India Today are mentioning special records of individual industries, what if wikipedia maintain with reliable sources?Phani M (talk) 17:32, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

• Strong support There are way too many articles for the grosses achieved by Indian cinema. And considering the fact that there is no official box office source for grosses of Indian films, it is really unnecessary too have these many articles. It would be a good idea to merge all articles into one. NiR_insanity 16:42, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
• Decline. i'm completly opposing the merge of an articls

we all telugu people want highest grossing telugu movies we want indiual records of separte languages in indiaAkhil (talk) 16:41, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

do you have any actually policy based rationale ?-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:20, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

• Strong Decline These articles represent readers to get an idea about how the box office performance works from time to time. Daan0001 (talk) 13:27, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
• Decline. As the major sources like TOI and India Today are mentioning special records of individual industries, what if wikipedia maintain with reliable sources?Ak-Akhil (talk) 00:02, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
• Strong Support I support this decision as there are so many similar articles related to the trends , facts, figures of bollywood films.If the articles are merged it would be easier to maintain the current information in the articles.--Param Mudgal (talk) 09:47, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

• Comment from merge proposer - It seems much of the merging has proceeded, and Bollywood 100 Crore Club scope has been successfully limited to describing that concept without maintenance of another table. However, there still seems to be outstanding controversy whether to fold List of highest-grossing Bollywood films into List of highest-grossing Indian films. Given that lack of consensus, and the practice of WP:MERGE, an uninvolved admin, or at least an uninvolved editor, should be the closer of this discussion. This has been open for a while, but also consider WP:DEADLINE. Meanwhile, there are contradictory figures in the worldwide grosses between the two articles and these are about to be flagged as such. Dl2000 (talk) 23:40, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

• No Support If this has to be merged, then the list will come as "National" with Hindi, Tamil and Telugu films which has the potential, but let us keep each language as different eventhough a main box can be added only in Hindi page which shows all films as per its collection.

Rajeshbieee (talk) 09:41, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

• Strong decline I decline the merger proposal as this will be very ignorant idea to categorize Tamil, Telugu, Bengali, Malayalam, Marathi and other non-Hindi Indian movies under the tag of Bollywood. Bollywood is the Mumbai-based Hindi film industry whereas the other industries are different ones. None of us are that much childish not to understand the difference between them! Arka 92 06:02, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

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Slumdog Millionaire

What is the resistance to or problem with adding this film to this list? The total being cited by the people attempting add it, $377.9m USD, is not unsourced, except perhaps by the editor adding it: that number is available from the Wiki article on Slumdog Millionaire, and is correctly cited there from BoxOfficeMojo.com, which, given that it is a subsidiary of IMDB.com, I would say is incontrovertibly a reliable, third-party source, and this film clearly eclipses every other film currently on this list by a large margin.

The only thing I can figure is that it was apparently produced by a UK studio, in which case, I must ask, what is the definition being used here for "Indian films"? This is not specified in the article itself, and there is even another article specifically for a list of highest-grossing Bollywood films, which implies to me that this article is or should not be limited specifically to films made in India, and rather about films by or about India/Indian peoples. The movie takes place in India, was filmed in India with Indian actors, is based on a novel by an Indian author, and apparently nearly a third of its dialogue is in Hindi, which to my line of thinking makes this an unquestionably "Indian" movie, even if the studio that filmed it wasn't based in India, thus I see no good reason why it should not be added. besieged^talk 18:42, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

According to the film WP:WikiProject Film, what determines which country a film is from is the country of the production company. It has been discussed many times Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film/Archive_index. BollyJeff | talk 19:15, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

sourcing

For those not on the BOI top 10 grossing list, other reliable sources will need to be provided. It looks like they often mix a domestic in crores with international in $ so it will take someone to do the appropriate math. I will just drop some stuff here. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:30, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Enthiran

from our article Enthiran:

However, independent sources like Box Office India remained skeptic and put the earnings at about ₹255.5 crore (US$31 million) with ₹186.50 crore nett and ₹202 crore gross while overseas earnings are around US$12 million.

I think we should by the figure reported by the Box Office India JK (talk) 07:04, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

your BOI estimate is made only one month after release, other estimates in many other reliable sources made later have different values. why should we believe the BOI future crystal balling is accurate and everybody else looking at later data is wrong?-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 08:14, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

You can not edit on your personal opinion. News paper articles that you are giving, don't specialise in boxoffice data.They gave the data reported by Enthiran producers. Box office india is an independent source,whose sole work is to track boxoffice data. If you do like this,I can give articles giving different box office figures for different films. We should follow a common parameter for ranking.I think you are bias is areflecting in you edits. Please refrain from this..Kumarila 17:43 02 april 2013 —Preceding undated comment added 12:17, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

It is your editing to your personal belief that older estimates by a single source should be treated as more accurate than multiple more recent estimates. We can take this to the Reliable source notice boards if you like. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 18:24, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Billa 2

The editor 111.92.22.36 is probably right. There is no cite for the total gross of Billa 2. JK (talk) 06:29, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

3 idiots is no.1

3 idiots has the most grossing but still it is given 2nd rank while enthiran the first. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.3.130.0 (talk) 17:06, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Don't destroy this site with bullshit information!!!

Anonym people be careful with your IP ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Titanit (talk • contribs) 10:55, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

ENTHIRAN - Biggest grosser in the history of Indian cinema ever.

Enthiran is the highest grossing Indian film of all time as said by India Today ,The Indian Express,NDTV,TV9 and CNN-IBN with grossing of minimum 400 crores.

India Today [[1]]

Indianexpress[[2]]

TV9[[3]]

NDTV[[4]]

CNN-IBN[[5]]

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Why do u say that Enthiran movie grossed just 255 crores as said by Box Office India which is an independent website which is related to only Hindi films and not tamil films.

Everyone know that India Today ,The Indian Express,NDTV,TV9 and CNN-IBN are far far better than the independent website Box Office India.

This is not a small problem. This issue is going on for three years.This is not a single person issue but the question of millions. Do remember it and follow the wikipedia guidelines sir. Rajafree (talk) 11:59, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Does this list include gross income from DVDs and music licensing?

If the numbers at BOI include DVD and music, then the following can be added to the lead (reference that it is originally from Cinema of India)-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 16:54, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Earnings from DVD and overseas showings accounting for some 12% of the revenue generated by a mainstream film, contribute substantially to the overall revenue of Indian cinema, the net worth of which was found to be US$1.3 billion in 2000. Music in Indian cinema is another substantial revenue generator, with the music rights alone accounting for 4–5% of the net revenues generated by a film in India.* Potts, Michel W. (2006), "Film Industry", Encyclopedia of India (vol. 2), Thomson Gale, ISBN 978-0-684-31351-1.</ref>

References

add reflist and sign for archiver -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:09, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Shankar's I not in List

Shankar's I not yet listed in this list it also grossed 32 millions. So please add it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.114.109.110 (talk) 08:35, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Other Language Movies Not yet Listed

Some telugu movies and other language movies to grossed more than 25 millions. So could you please update it in this list please — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.114.109.110 (talk) 05:56, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Site for only Hindi movies??

other langauge movies like Kollywood or Tollywood will be deleted by anomyn and other, maybe Hindi, peoples ^^ soo bad guys..soo bad..... New Headline of this site "High grossing Hindi-Movies worldwide"

Chennai Express worldwide gross

It is written that chennai express world wide gross is 3.17 billion (317 crore) That is wrong that is the world wide collection. The world wide gross is 3.88 billion(388 crore) crore as of Tuesday 27 August Worldwide gross=domestic+oversea+entertainment tax Here is the link http://www.boxofficecapsule.com/boxoffice-collections.aspx?id=1688 Confirmed by taran Adarsh,n bollywood hungama Look at the worldwide gross not world wide collection World wide gross

As of 28 August the exact amound will come in the evening ill give the link in the evening. Moreover, I check yesterday that enthiran world wide gross is 4.02 billion(402 crore) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.24.166.0 (talk) 05:46, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Fake regional records

Dear sir

User:Radharani11 and other IP addresses are revert warring on this article. Please take action. They seem to be fans of actors Rajinikanth, Surya, Vijay, Ajith and trying to create false image to boost super-ego. They are removing links that do not support their POV. They are trying to turn hearsay and wishlist into facts. I suspect User:Radharani11 to be a sock puppet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.193.44.92 (talk) 16:28, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

LOL maybe there are movies of Rajinikanth, Surya and so on which are in the Top 20 of this List ?? In India exist other languages too not only Bollywood.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Titanit (talk • contribs) 09:05, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Endhiran

Endhiran clearly is the highest grossing Indian film.BOI says its gross in Tamil itself is 255 Crs.Its Telugu version earned 69 Crs.And hindi version over 30 Crs.Overseas is different. The 179 mentioned there is the revenue earned by producer.Everything is cleared in this article.Its total goes over 400 + Crs.Easily the highest Indian grosser. http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/8077844-enthiranrobot-collected-444-crore-worldwide Post right info! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.65.205 (talk) 18:47, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

That is an example of irresponsible media speculation. Hindi population is 7 times larger than Tamil population. Anyway, Enthiran flopped miserably in Bollywood. Raanjhanaa was a much bigger success story there. The 179 crore figure is the global gross revenue from theatricals and rights. Dabangg and My Name Is Khan grossed more than Enthiran as they released in more screens and higher marketing buzz. Also, several Enthiran distributors claimed losses due to high pricing for Tamil version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.193.39.208 (talk) 03:12, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Request for Update This Article

So till now most of the websites are showing Chennai Express In the first position with a gross Income in Indian Films worldwide of Rs 420 Crores. With domestic gross income of Rs 301 crore and International collection is Rs 119 crore and domestic net collection is Rs 226.70 crores.
I want to give some of the links which are the proof to my statement
http://www.filmjagat.com/2013/09/chennai-express-box-office-journey.html
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-09-29/news-interviews/42481965_1_chennai-express-aamir-and-salman-talaash
http://www.koimoi.com/box-office/chennai-express-box-office-journey-comes-to-a-halt-at-420-crs-gross-globally/
These sites are giving the latest informations all other are old. So I request to update this Article. And talking about "Slumdog Millionaire" this is not at all included in Bollywood film. Its directer, producer, screen play, Editor, distributor all are of US and even the investment and taxation are in US dollar. So it is a Hollywood film.
About Rajnikant's Robot the link http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/8077844-enthiranrobot-collected-444-crore-worldwide is not giving the correct information. It can be confirmed from the data showing 3 Idiots with income of Rs 339 crore which is not, the gross worldwide income of 3 Idiots was Rs 392 crore, which has been now beated by Chennai Express with gross world wide income of Rs 420 crore till now.
Again this link show the correct income of Robot http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/robot+rajini=rs-300-cr/1/115629.html
So I request to update this article as soon as possible with list like this
1st Chennai Express with Rs 420 crore
2nd 3 Idiots with Rs 392 crore
3rd Ek Tha Tiger with Rs 310 crore
4th Yeh Jawaani Hai Deewani with Rs 301 crore
5th Enthiran with Rs 300 crore

Also add Telugu film Attarintiki Daredi Gross collections 230 crore
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Harikrishnakandula (talk • contribs) 05:10, 20 November 2013 (UTC) and then as it is. Please do it as soon as possible.

MrDon100crore (talk) 13:38, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Not done: One of your sources (koimoi) has a reliable look and presents a table which does not support your request. Regards, Celestra (talk) 18:49, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for Editing this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrDon100crore (talk • contribs) 13:28, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

chennai express grossed 4.22 billion

chennai express grossed 4.22 billion (422 crores) till date reference 1)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_Bollywood_films 2)http://www.koimoi.com/box-office/chennai-express-box-office-journey-comes-to-a-halt-at-420-crs-gross-globally/ Karansangaj06071995 (talk) 06:53, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Partly done: your source states 4.20, not 4.22. BOI still says 3.95. As both sources are identified in the lede as reputable, I've kept both figures. --Stfg (talk) 14:29, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Instead of reverting that and calling the editor who took the trouble to do it a "newbie" while leaving bits of the edit summary splattered at the top of the page, perhaps it would be better to edit the first sentence of the lede, which currently says "... as reported by sources such as Box Office India,[1][2] Bollywood Hungama, Koimoi, and other reputable sources". --Stfg (talk) 20:00, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Furthermore, the WP:NPOV policy states: "Neutrality requires that each article or other page in the mainspace fairly represents all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint in the published, reliable sources." (First sentence of WP:WEIGHT). So how can you prioritise one reliable source over others?

And yet another thing: that consensus one of you claimed on my talk page doesn't exist. I've just read this whole talk page. No agreement was ever struck to favour BOI at the expense of the others. See this edit, and this for other views. --Stfg (talk) 20:35, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Request to include Tamil movies

Request to include Tamil movies like singam 2, arambam, viswaroopam in the 100+ crore list as all these films has crossed the landmark as reported in media several times — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.21.157.2 (talk) 07:47, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Request originally posted at the top of this talk page moved down and sorted according to date of posting. - Jayadevp13

Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2013

Change the worldwide gross of Krrish 3 from 2.25 billion to 3.21 billion Sources :

http://m.koimoi.com/box-office/krrish-3-now-3rd-highest-worldwide-grosser-beats-ek-tha-tigers-record/?maneref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co.in%2F

122.177.61.251 (talk) 13:33, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

 Done - Jayadevp13 17:44, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2013

Chennai Express worldwide gross is 4.22 billion.Please have a correction on this.The source is another wikipedia page itself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_Bollywood_films 183.83.22.156 (talk) 19:58, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

wikipedia articles are not reliably published sources. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 23:39, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of this Page

This page must be deleated because it already exists here and is more updated and authentic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bollywood_highest-grossing_films_in_overseas_markets Dr. Shahid Alam(Talk to Me) 09:47, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

it would be the other page with the colloquial title that would be deleted. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:58, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2013

world wide gross of movie 'chennai express' is INR 422 Crore Rajptl20 (talk) 16:38, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

: Not done: Box office figures are being considered whenever available and not that by other trade analysts. - Jayadevp13 17:11, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

 Partly done: Added the figures as a note. - Jayadevp13 17:43, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 January 2014

| 14 |''[[Aarambam]]'' | 2012 | [[A. Raghuram]] | {{INRConvert|1.9|b}}<ref> |-

Not done: as you have not cited a reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 19:48, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

References

null edit for archiver. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:28, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Worldwide gross discrepancies

Which is is for Dhoom 3?

• List of highest-grossing Bollywood films#Highest-grossing Bollywood films worldwide --> ₹533 crore (US$88 million)
• List of highest-grossing Indian films#Global gross figures in Indian Cinema --> ₹5.26 billion (US$87 million)

... and that's just the first contradiction, at least as of shortly before this posting moment. Dl2000 (talk) 23:45, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 August 2014

After ATTARINTIKI DAREDI, there should be A TELUGU FILM CALLED MAGADHEERA.... source http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_Tollywood_(Telugu)_movies 24.126.180.46 (talk) 16:26, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

References

 Not done Magadheera appears to have grossed INR105 crore (US$17 million) which is well off this table - whilst Wikipedia is not a reliable source - Arjayay (talk) 19:30, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2015

Enthiran : Gross Revenue : 2.56 Billion INR; <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enthiran> 117.231.23.218 (talk) 07:55, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

 Not done Wikipedia is not a reliably published source. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 07:56, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 July 2015

Padukati raju (talk) 08:55, 18 July 2015 (UTC) please change Baahubali Telugu/Tamil to Baahubali Telugu in list of highest-grossing Indian films

Not done: per Baahubali: The Beginning, it was made simultaneously in both languages. why remove it? Cannolis (talk) 11:14, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Baahubali - The Bilingual Film

Baahubali is not just a Telugu film.

Baahubali is the Bilingual Film which was simultaneously made in Telugu and Tamil.Boxoffice (talk) 16:48, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

It's listed as both Tamil and Telugu in the table and in both separate tables here. Is there anything more to be done? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 23:04, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

 Done Thank you.Boxoffice (talk) 16:48, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 July 2015 a

why Baahubali movie is added into list of highest Tamil grossing movies in Tamil version it collected only just 35 crores where as in Telugu version alone grossed more than 150 crores it is primarily a Telugu film made simultaneously in Tamil by Telugu cast and crew how could you include a movie which just grossed only 35 crores in Tamil into highest grossing Tamil movies list its absolutely rubbish Padukati raju (talk) 18:33, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

 Not done please present your request in a "Please change XX to YY" or "Please add ZZZ" and provide a reliable source that supports such changes. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:30, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 July 2015 b

Bahubali is Telugu movie. Why did u put Telugu/Tamil. Why did Enthiran has only Tamil? It is also released in Telugu. 98.25.28.48 (talk) 21:09, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

 Not done please present your request in a "Please change XX to YY" or "Please add ZZZ" and provide a reliable source that supports such changes. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:31, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2015 a

Baahubali is mainly a Telugu movie simultaneously shot in other language but why did you mention it as Telugu/Tamil instead of Telugu in the list of highest grossing Indian films. I agree it is made in two languages but it should be mentioned only in Baahubali movie page and not in the above list. what do the other people think whether it is mainly a Telugu movie or from other. they should know from which language or movie industry the movie is made. many movies in the list are released in other languages as well but only for this particular movie you are mentioning in both languages so change it to """TELUGU""" as it is the primary language in which the movie is made 107.167.109.55 (talk) 02:49, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

 Not done please present your request in a "Please change XX to YY" or "Please add ZZZ" and provide a reliable source that supports such changes. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 03:31, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2015

please change Baahubali Telugu/Tamil to Baahubali Telugu in list of highest Indian grossing films reliable source : m.firstpost.com/bollywood/baahubali-untouched-rs-300-cr-in-9-days-while-bajrangi-bhaijaan-makes-rs-100-cr-on-eid-weekend-2351890.html Padukati raju (talk) 11:17, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Not done: See above. This is the 5th identical request. If it was made in both languages, it will be described as being in both languages. Kindly stop wasting everyone's time. Cannolis (talk) 12:20, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2015

Baahubali: The Beginning is a bilingual film made in Tamil AND telugu. Someone keeps deleting it from the tamil section and removing tamil as a language from the top-grossing part.... 68.230.153.159 (talk) 12:06, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

 Done thank you. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 16:13, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 23 July 2015

14.140.242.186 (talk) 04:37, 23 July 2015 (UTC) Bajrangi Bhaijaan --- 800 Cr.

Please provide a reliable source for that number. It'll be more likely to be done. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:15, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

• Ok, I closed this myself. No source was provided for 800 which is almost double what the current RS say. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:53, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 23 July 2015 b

Please insert the following language at the top of the "Global gross figures" section above the box denoting still running movies along with a Notes section just before the References section with the following. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:28, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

This is the top twenty global grossing films from India not adjusted for inflation.^[7]

1.^ Sholay (1975), for example, could be considered for the list as estimates for its adjusted gross reach as high as ₹3.00 billion (US$36 million).

References

• I would support inclusion of statement about not reflecting inflation. As well as more history about box office numbers and the rise thereof. The source article has a lot of interesting history of India film that while not appropriate here could go into the Bollywood article. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 21:17, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

See List of highest-grossing films (adjusted and non-adjusted sections) for how we could introduce and include an adjusted-for-inflation section to better reflect the older films. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:09, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

I took these sources and the concept and added some content. Feel free to make/suggest modifications. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:06, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 24 July 2015a

Baahubali 14 days worldwide gross is 385 crore.

References

Min2winit (talk) 11:18, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Denied. It's been updated to 401 now. Someone should have commented that this is an outdated number or else someone else could have mixed it up. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:55, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 24 July 2015 b

[redact cut and paste copy of article] Sat3787 (talk) 11:27, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

 Not done do not copy and paste the entire article. make a specific request such as "Please change XXX to YYY" or "Please add ZZZ" . Include the reliably published sources that support the change. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:59, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 24 July 2015

Baahubali has reached 385 crores. But it is mentioned as 365 only. 203.196.171.36 (talk) 14:22, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

 Not done you will need to provide a reliably published source with a reputation for fact checking and editorial oversight -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:28, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Baahubali: The begining collection 401 Crores in 15 day IBTimes

Protected edit request on 25 July 2015 a

List of highest-grossing Indian films Movie Baahubali: The Beginning Worldwide Gross Collection 185 crores. References (http://www.ibtimes.co.in/baahubali-bahubali-2nd-week-box-office-collection-rajamoulis-film-earns-rs-385-crore-14-days-640318) (http://www.boxofficehits.in/collection/bahubali-2nd-week-14th-day-collection-baahubali-total-collection.html) Highest grossing Telugu films Movie Baahubali: The Beginning Worldwide Gross Collection 185 crores. References (http://www.ibtimes.co.in/baahubali-bahubali-2nd-week-box-office-collection-rajamoulis-film-earns-rs-385-crore-14-days-640318) (http://www.boxofficehits.in/collection/bahubali-2nd-week-14th-day-collection-baahubali-total-collection.html) 139.86.9.83 (talk) 04:59, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

I think it's 401 now. This is why we shouldn't do a dozen requests as someone else could have done this and deleted the rest of them. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:49, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

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Update baahubali collections. Source - http://cinehug.com/telugu/baahubali-collects-447-cr/ Bits darklord (talk) 06:03, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

 Not done we only use reliably published sources with a reputation for fact checking and editorial oversight -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:10, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 25 July 2015 c

please update the collections of baahubali

103.21.127.79 (talk) 06:17, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

 Not done Please make your requests in the form of "Please change XXX to YYY" and provide a reliably published source with a reputation for fact checking and editorial oversight -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:12, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

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Baahubali: The Beginning* Grosses Rs 401 Crore., please update the table accordingly.

References

- Varmapak 07:32, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Done. Thank you for formatting that citation for me, that was very helpful. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:48, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

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please change baahubali's collections from 365 crores to 401 crores source:http://www.ibtimes.co.in/baahubali-bahubali-3rd-friday-box-office-collection-prabhas-starrer-grosses-rs-401-crore-15-640452 103.21.127.79 (talk) 15:14, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

 Denied As below, there's another request below with the same (actually two links) and is actually formatted properly (please change the specific line). You are asking users who don't edit this article normally to make a change so it would be better for you to spend a few minutes, write your request with the proper grammar and spelling, properly capitalize and perhaps link the film name and otherwise make the edit as easy as possible to be done. Else, no one here really cares if the box office results are right to the very day so it's less likely to be done the more repeated disorganized quick-shot requests are made. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:37, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

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Sir baahubali has earned more than 400 crores till now but its still being shown as 365 crore

115.248.50.29 (talk) 16:02, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

 Not done Please provide a reliably published source with a reputation for fact checking and editorial oversight that verifies any content you wish to add to the article. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:20, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Baahubali: The begining collection 401 Crores in 15 day IBTimes

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please change baahubali's collection from 365crores to 401crores source:http://www.ibtimes.co.in/baahubali-bahubali-3rd-friday-box-office-collection-prabhas-starrer-grosses-rs-401-crore-15-640452 103.21.127.79 (talk) 16:04, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

 Denied It's request below with the same (actually two links) and is actually formatted properly (please change the specific line). You are asking users who don't edit this article normally to make a change so it would be better for you to spend a few minutes, write your request with the proper grammar and spelling, properly capitalize and perhaps link the film name and otherwise make the edit as easy as possible to be done. Else, no one here really cares if the box office results are right to the very day so it's less likely to be done the more repeated disorganized quick-shot requests are made. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:37, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 25 July 2015: Collections of Baahubali need to be updated to 401 crores. (Reliable source included: www.ibttimes.co.in)

|- |-span style="background:#b6fcb6; width:50px; border:1px solid #aaa;" | style="background-color:#9FC"|* Baahubali: The Beginning | 2015 | Arka Media Works | Telugu | ₹401 crore (US$48 million) |

References

2601:40A:8003:8B99:544C:8DE:6705:E271 (talk) 21:43, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

• Done. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:56, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Please update Baahubali's gross figures!

Source - http://cinehug.com/telugu/baahubali-collects-447-cr/ Please update Baahubali's gross figures as to the 25th of July. It should be the 3rd highest grossing film. Thanks!- Nyankitty5023

 Not done We are not under any obligation to monitor on a minute by minute or day by day basis any ephemeral content. We are however, under an obligation to utilize only reliably published sources with a reputation for fact checking and accuracy. cinehug is not one of them. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 22:58, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Baahubali: The begining collection 401 Crores in 15 day IBTimes

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Baahubali movie made 401cr world wide gross. See below links for reference.

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/baahubali-bahubali-3rd-friday-box-office-collection-prabhas-starrer-grosses-rs-401-crore-15-640452

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2015/07/25/indias-baahubali-punches-out-401-crore-62-6-million-gross-in-15-days/

Please update it. 14.139.69.62 (talk) 04:32, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Repeating the same request a dozen times does not make it happen any faster. In fact , volunteers coming to the page and seeing a dozen requests are MORE likely to say, "Not worth my time to try to sort that mess out" . So please stop. You are not doing yourself any favor, just cluttering up the page. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:48, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for troubling, but I do not know the reason why too slow updating after getting valid reference. It's already got update in film's main page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baahubali:_The_Beginning.

Unlike that page, this page has been fulled protected so that only administrators can edit it (I'm one myself but it would be wrong for me to do repeatedly) in large part because of the number of editors who insist on using every single blog as a "source" and the amount of fighting as you can see over what languages each film should or shouldn't be included in (or just childishly removing languages or movies without explanation). Too many people who aren't interested in having a serious neutral article but instead want something to "win". Before this fighting was across a number of separate pages, which all had completely difference results for that reason and now it's just anarchy when the protection gets removed. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:33, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

• Done anyways because no one else would touch it. -- Ricky81682 (talk)

Thank you for updating, but I have a doubt, why Baahubali is after 3 Idots? Its showing 3 Idiots collection as ₹392 crore (US$61 million) but Baahubali got ₹401 crore (US$63 million), Is it happened by mistake? or due to any other hidden reason?

Sorry, didn't see that. Corrected. And please remember to sign your posts for clarity. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 11:47, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

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Baahubali is a telugu film, it should not be in the list of highest grossing tamil films. Please edit this article. JohnnyBlaze007 (talk) 10:55, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

There's no consensus to ignore the fact that the film was shot as a bilingual film as discussed in Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_Indian_films#Baahubali_is_a_Bilingual amongst other places. I'm going to start an RFC on the issue just to stop the arguing. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 11:37, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

being discussed below.-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:54, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

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Baahubali is a TELUGU film only. It should not be considered as TELUGU/TAMIL as only the the predominant language is considered. In the case both should be considered, note that many other movies like Enthiraan should also be TELUGU/TAMIL. Please change Baahubali language to only TELUGU for consistency. Buddugubaby (talk) 07:27, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

It was created in both Tamil and Telugu. How is it consistent to ask that Baahubali be put into Telugu only and Enthiraan be Telugu/Tamil? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:31, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

I think you misunderstand him. He is requesting you change Enthiraan from tamil to Telugu/Tamil, as it was also a billingual film like Baahubali.

Not done: As I responded in one of the plethora of edit requests above, I made that change, as Enthiran and I were not shot simultaneously in Telugu and Tamil like Baahubali was, they were shot in Tamil only and dubbed into Telugu later. It is preposterous to consider these situations the same. Cannolis (talk) 11:30, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

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Like Baahubali, Enthirran and Sivaji are also billingual films. Change those two films from tamil to telugu/tamil to ensure consistency and fair representation. 122.167.204.98 (talk) 07:49, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Not done: as explained above. Cannolis (talk) 11:30, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

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why Baahubali movie is in the list of highest grossing Tamil films remove it immediately from the Tamil list. I can't understand why a movie which even didn't gross at least 45 crores in original Tamil language in tn and international markets (leave about share) is included in the list of highest grossing Tamil films that to with figures of 355 crore its absolutely ridiculous. It is not a Tamil movie it is a Telugu movie primarily and then it is made with few dialogues in Tamil simultaneously. Baahubali movie is from Telugu director cast and crew is Telugu but it is being regarded as Tamil movie and is being included in list of highest grossing Tamil films as well. All the official sources regard Baahubali as a Telugu film and even every celebrity from other languages regard it as a Telugu film but this guy says """we do not exclude what the sources have said because we don't agree believe how they have classified the film""" and at the same time he asks for relevant official sources. Many of them are asking and arguing why it is being included in the Tamil list and to remove it from Tamil list but he ignores all the sources provided citing various reasons. A movie which didn't even gross atleast 15% of the total collections is included in the Tamil list. I'm also arguing to remove it from the Tamil list. Padukati raju (talk) 12:03, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Not done: as you keep making unsupported statements, without citing reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 14:05, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Unfortunately the information was removed in contravention of this response. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:29, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

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That per the sources ranging from Forbes to the Guardian to the Times of India to IBN to NDTV to The National identify the film as bilingual Tamil / Telugu. As such both the languages should be identified in the language column in the Global Gross Figures section, and the film should be added back into the Highest Grossing Tamil Films section. Please undo these unexplained edits removing the valid content. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:36, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Support re-insertion of content. The comment above arguing against bilingualism provides no sources to justify its removal. I'm an admin but I'm involved here to re-insert it. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:15, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Support re-insertion. Sources provided the TRPoD very clearly state the film was made simultaneously in both languages, and not in one first and dubbed into another, which is the case for all the other examples the removing user has been drawing incorrect comparisons to. Cannolis (talk) 11:44, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Against re-insertion: Having a single movie in multiple categories of Highest grossings list doesn't make sense. In India either film is simultaneously made or Dubbed doesn't make a difference. Here are the sources more recently written than the sources presented by TRPOD which states the movie is primarly made in Telugu by Telugu film Industry by a Telugu Director from a Telugu Production house The Guardian Forbes The Guardian all these sources clearly focus on the primary language]

108.192.149.255 (talk) 23:17, 23 July 2015 (UTC) pradeep

of course having a bilingual film be represented in all of the languages it was created in makes perfect sense. Denying a bilingual film from showing in one of the languages it was created in does not make sense. If you have a list of boxes and a list of red items, if you list the red box in the list of boxes doesnt mean that it should not appear in the list of red items - it is still red. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 00:28, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

If i have a 10 - sided box which is painted blue on 9 sides and red on 1 side. If I had multiple options to put in including blue and red boxes, i would rather put them in blue boxes and definitely not in red boxes category

Ok, if we go to the "Highest Grossing Tamil films" category, the description states as "Tamil cinema, producing films in the Tamil language is based primarily in the Indian state of Tamil Nadu, particularly in the Chennai" . Is this description true for "Baahubali: The begining"? it is rather produced by Telugu Cinema (Tollywood) which is based in the Indian state of Telangana particularly near Hyderabad. This is exactly where it gets complicated. That is the reason i suggest, instead of dividing the grossing lists by languages better divide them by industries like Hindi Film industry (Bollywood), Telugu Film Industry (Tollywood), Tamil Film Industry (Kollywood). So, that it can give accurate representation of the films without leaving anything to imagination.108.192.149.255 (talk) 01:01, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

It's still a film produced in the Tamil language. That's the definition, rather than the location of the film's shooting. Are Hindi films shot overseas no longer Hindi films because they aren't shot in the traditional Bollywood locations? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 03:39, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Hindi films eventhough shot all around the world, still the production house, Director, Crew, technicians the core of the film stays in Mumbai (Bollywood Hub). Similarly Vishwaroopam is mostly shot overseas yet we call it a Tamil film. Similarly Baahubali, irrespective of where it is shot, the heart of the film, the directors, productions house, lead actors & technicians lies in Hyderabad (Tollywood/ Telugu Cinema industry). Tamil cinema has nothing to do with this film barring few actors and a dialogue writer for tamil.

None of that matters. What matters is what languages the film was shot in. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:33, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Now being discussed at the Talk:List_of_highest-grossing_Indian_films#RfC:_How_should_we_classify_Baahubali below. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:55, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Crore vs million/billion numbering system

Shouldn't the figures be expressed in Indian numbering system as opposed to Western numbering system (millions and billions) for the convenience of majority of readers who are likely to visit this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.178.217.152 (talk) 19:45, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

I honestly don't know. Wikipedia has a manual of style for this sort of thing so maybe you should ask at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers. I suspect they will advise that you use the Indian system and provide a conversion but it is best to check. Betty Logan (talk) 21:44, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

3 Idiots and other older films

There's a huge problem on this list when it comes to writing the USD totals. A few films like 3 Idiots were released before the Indian rupee significantly got weaker. The 3 Idiots USD total should be $83 million, which puts it much higher on the other list. And other films released earlier should have adjusted totals as well. Nothing's adjusted in the USD list and that means great error. Also, Enthiran's grossed $71 million.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:A03F:9B:600:7598:111E:F976:5B8C (talk) 19:55, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

The ranking is in terms of rupees so while there's a difference in US figures, that doesn't change anything. As to Enthiran's gross, if you can provide a reliable source for that, then update it. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:31, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Dasavatharam

Why the hell are you not adding Dasavatharam in this list. Because it also grossed $31 millions

Please add Kamal Haasan's Dasavatharam in this list, cause dasavatharam also collected $31 millions. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.114.109.110 (talk) 04:21, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Provide a source. There's already too much game-playing with people just guessing and changing the numbers without explanation. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:32, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Andraboxoffice.com is not a reliable source

There is no evidence that [8] is a reliable source. It's essentially a blog. The problem is that's the only source for the Telugu section and if removed, there's nothing to be listed. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:21, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

• agree not a valid source -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:56, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Addaytoday is not a reliable source

I removed the links to this page. This blog has nothing that indicates that it is a reliable source. I hid the listings for Bodyguard and Dabangg until a real source is found. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:06, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

agree not a reliable source WP:RS-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:57, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Incorrect information

Wikipedia States that S. S. Rajamouli's Baahubali 2: The Conclusion is the second highest grossing Indian film in the banner of the top right side however, as per the current record, Dangal is still the Second highest grossing Indian movie and Baahubali is still in the first position. Dangal May become the highest grossing movie but as of now it is not, so may have to correct it.