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Denali

I recently reverted an IP edit to the highest point.

My revert had the edit comment "It is customary and polite to include former names, especially when a renaming is very recent."
The IP edit had the edit comment "So such thing as Mt Mckinley" (I think 'No such thing" was meant)
The prior version had been stable for a few months:
Before September 27, 2015 it was:
  • Denali (formerly Mount McKinley) ...
On August 30, 2015 it was briefly
Before August 30, 2015 it was
This version had been stable at least back to April 2015, when there was a bit of vandalism was quickly reverted.

There apparently has been a vigorous discussion about the lede and title of Denali (see the talk page) which may have spilled over here. YBG (talk) 01:00, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

  • The point here, which you seem to understand well, is to help readers find the information they are looking for, not to fight over what the proper name is. As the article is now, after much discussion, called "Denali" the pharasing "Denali(Mount McKinley)" seems perfectly reasonable and helpful, as well as reflecting the way the naming is treated in the article itself. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:29, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
  • Agree with Beeblebrox. Out of courtesy and helpfulness it should be Denali (Mount McKinley) since the change is so very recent. Not all our readers will be aware of the change of "official" title and we want to get them to the correct place. The actual article will explain to them the nuances. Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:20, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
  • Agree - it should be Denali (Mount McKinley), Alaska - Mount McKinley is already redirected. Apuldram (talk) 16:07, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Misleading map makes Maine look more north than it is

The map, File:USA-Extreme-Points.svg, is incorrect and misleading about how far north Maine is. The northernmost point of Maine actually is more south than Seattle, Washington. The map shows Maine's northern border to be quite a bit above not just Seattle, but the northern most point of Washington. The latitude of northern Maine is at 47° 28'N. Seattle's latitude is 47.6097° N for reference (so Maine's northern point should be slightly below that), and Washington State's northern border is on 49° N.

Yes, this distortion is explained in the text. I'm putting the map back, but I'll add a note about that. --Lasunncty (talk) 02:34, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
It is not a distortion. The equal area, non-cylindrical maps more closely resemble the USA than the cylindrical map. The lines of latitude are curved in real life. Ordinary Person (talk) 11:49, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

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The egsc.usgs.gov link is now at pubs.usgs.gov. The bootkeyharbor.com archive is good. --Lasunncty (talk) 01:25, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

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The first one had some stray "aa"s thrown in, that when removed led to a successful archive. I was also able to find an updated link for the second one. --Lasunncty (talk) 09:13, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Not really irrelevant

Some of the external links removed in this edit should probably be inserted into the article as references. --Lasunncty (talk) 09:10, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Equivocating about Alaska

I have to say as an Alaskan I find some of this article kind of offensive. Specifically the way nearly every entry relating to Alaska has just under it the same record in the contiguous states, as if the one from Alaska isn't really real. We're used to it, our fellow Americans sometimes don't recall that we are actually a real state and all, not a territory or foreign country, but it doesn't make it any less obnoxious. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:49, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Having other points listed doesn't make the ones in Alaska any less real. If anything, since Alaska is listed first, I'd think it would make those seem more extreme, while the others get just a consolation prize. Many other non-contiguous countries have similar situations: See Extreme points of Earth#By region for links to other countries' lists of points. --Lasunncty (talk) 11:03, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Direction of Travel

Could someone who understands the concept write up (or link an article to) a definition of what does it mean to be an extreme point "by direction of travel"? I can't wrap my head around the concept, and I'm sure I'm not the only person. Is it a way to say "the extreme point when looking at the Mercator projection of the Earth"? Thank you. Matus Horvath (talk) 10:17, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Is the explanation in the "Interpretation" section not adequate? --Lasunncty (talk) 11:08, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
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