Talk:List of countries by external debt

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Vandalism

Guys look at the United States' external debt?? -Azpineapple (talk) 10:25, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Map

This article needs a map. Please, someone nice do it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LucasW (talk • contribs) 05:41, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Australia

This list is generally terrible but Australia is very badly formatted, some sort of bad markdown or something idfk... We should get someone with extra time to come in here and fix the whole thing, it's an important page and not a very long one either. Also make it easier to edit the table, editors have bad conventions when it comes to stuff like this. -Language Bꙮi Language Boi (talk) 22:55, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mauritius $10Tn GDP

Mauritius, per its current numbers, has a debt of $200Bn USD and a Debt-to-GDP % of 2.00%, which would give it a GDP of approximately 10 trillion dollars, putting it roughly on par with China. Could someone with the proper statistical know-how please find a source with the correct data and fix this? I tried to search for it myself but there are an unreasonably large number of conflicting reports that I do not have the time to sift through. Thanks NintendoRevolutionNR (talk) 00:13, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The problem to sort this table

I'm just now in the process to make this table sortable for its main column.

I thought all those missing "Format price" entries would mess it up. But even properly formatted entries are not sorted well, because it seems that the list is sorted according to the leading numbers and not according to million/billion/trillion first.

I think it is better to factorize out the "million" and leave the values in the column plain. Manorainjan 18:53, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not correct table

the table rappresents the public debt not the external debt . 5.90.185.136 (talk) 11:28, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Isreal

why is Israel not included here? 2601:84:8B02:B160:80E9:400:4E0C:2542 (talk) 23:25, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Serbia mistake

Something is wrong with Serbia debt per capita. There are 6,9 million people living in Serbia, so 38,6 billion debt can not translate to 37845 debt per capita. It should be around 5,6k. Maybe there are similar mistakes here also? 87.116.135.24 (talk) 09:07, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's true. Serbian debt per capita is obviously wrong. 178.221.215.153 (talk) 20:08, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What's happening?

The list is incorrect in a lot of points! Uk has a higher debt than Japan, Ireland has a 500% debt on gdp and that would be an absurd record, Ireland has only 45%! Many other things are incorrect . Reading this list I thought Japan had solved its debt problem in like a year, but no it's top of the list 82.163.32.166 (talk) 15:49, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorting in the table is incorrect

When using the little arrow icons in the table header is used to sort tables per column, if there are rows have numbers followed by million or billion, example: 930 million and 600 billion, the sorting puts the row w8th 930 million. I think the rows should have the full numbers without text, or the sorting logic has to be smarter. Tnkpre (talk) 11:50, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Algeria's external debt

Algeria's external debt is less than 10 billion not 80 billion dollars. The link provided doesn't add up, it leads to Singapore's... 197.204.127.1 (talk) 08:57, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

% of GDP calculation

If I understand it correctly, then the "% of GDP" should be the country's debt / the country's GDP; however, it states that the UK has a debt of $9T and a % of GDP of 96.5, which would put its GDP at over $9T. Am I missing something, or were incorrect numbers used, since current estimates put it's GDP at around $3.2T? CrazyPengion (talk) 20:10, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There has apparently been quite a lot of vandalism to this article during March 2024, affecting the figures for France, Ireland, UK, and possibly others. This will need to be carefully corrected. Ehrenkater (talk) 20:35, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the most used source (https://web.archive.org/web/20190317104350/https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2079rank.html) it seems that most of "31 December 2017 est." has been changed to 2016 in the article. CrazyPengion (talk) 17:16, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is continuing vandalism and the whole table is suspect and needs to be carefully reviewed.---Ehrenkater (talk)

Did the US debt disappear?

Where are the US even in this list? Why were they removed?

What the hell is happening on this page? Alves Stargazer (talk) 03:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Missing one country

Why you do not add US in there? 103.134.2.35 (talk) 14:37, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

United States

Just noticed the US had been removed last week by random ip user, after several edits seeking to have India ranked in first place(?) Typical vandalism. - wolf 04:24, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

% of total wealth figure

This article defines "external debt" as public/government debt + private debt. It's then divided by "% of total wealth", with total wealth figures from the Global Wealth Databook series.

My issue with this is that the total wealth (for adult individuals) figures from the Global Wealth Databook are essentially: assets - debt: calculating external debt as a % of wealth held by individuals gives percentages that are too high. There should perhaps be instead be a column "external debt as a % of assets held by individuals", and maybe a column for public debt as a % of private wealth, and maybe a column for private debt as a % of private assets.

Also, as I understand, the Global Wealth Databook only calculates wealth for individuals aged 20 and older, whereas I think the "per capita" column here gives external debt for the entire recorded population for each country, which possibly skews figures for other columns. Quentin Johnson (talk) 07:19, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

US figure is incorrect

Most recent treasury print is $26.5T. https://ticdata.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/tic/Documents/debtb2024q1.html

Looks like someone mixed up national debt and external debt. 162.211.162.26 (talk) 17:02, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Florida is not a country

You have included Florida in the table. Florida is not a country but a US state. 2601:603:F7F:AF6B:0:0:0:F1 (talk) 09:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]