Talk:List of mainland settlements that are inaccessible by road

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Requested move 10 May 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not Moved - Editors should focus on clarifying inclusion criteria first per WP:LISTCRITERIA before contemplating a title change. Mike Cline (talk) 16:43, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

List of cities that are inaccessible by road → List of settlements and populated islands that are inaccessible by road – no definition of city or inaccessible. better suggestions may exist Darrelljon (talk) 06:00, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would be tempted to take this to AfD or find a place to redirect it. "Inaccessibility" seems to rely on bias toward people living in areas that are not on the list. Many of the areas on this list do have roads; from their perspective it is all the other places that are "inaccessible by road". "Road" also needs to be better defined (by car? by train? on foot?) and most islands would qualify depending upon the criteria, so I would advise against adding that to the title. We do also have List of car-free places which could present some more ideas. Dekimasuよ! 09:36, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose "and populated islands" as it feels like it would increase the scope to include nearly every island, which seems like too much. No opinion otherwise. The below discussion about scope may be relevant. Then again, "settlements" may be construed to include populated islands, but there's nothing wrong with a list not being all-inclusive, so I suppose it doesn't matter too much. ASUKITE 18:49, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Title and scope

It is unclear what island communities without road crossings ought to be included. Darrelljon (talk) 06:09, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comparatively few islands are connected to the mainland by bridges or tunnels, so once you start including islands you are going to get a very long and not very useful list. "Inaccessible by road" is reasonably clear. It might be more worthwhile to include settlements (of over a certain minimum size) which are inaccessible by road. I doubt whether all the places currently listed are really "cities".---Ehrenkater (talk) 15:03, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, on checking, most of those remaining in the Europe list are towns or villages, at least two in N America are small villages. Including islands (at least small ones) has to be a non-starter; the whole thing needs tighter definitions otherwise it will remain a mess. Geopersona (talk) 19:31, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

how about 'notable populated places accessible by land not road from other notable populated places' Darrelljon (talk) 21:37, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hydra

Hydra (island) tells "is one of the Saronic Islands" while this article tells "This is a list of cities and towns". Grillofrances (talk) 04:27, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mount Athos

wikivoyage:Mount Athos tells "can be reached only by ferry" Grillofrances (talk) 04:54, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Skagway Alaska

Skagway Alaska USA is not inaccessible by road - I have driven there. Admittedly, through Canada. If you require the road to stay in one country then this list would be much longer. 76.104.193.239 (talk) 01:45, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Powell River, British Columbia

Does this count when there's a car ferry connecting the town to Earls Cove and then BC-99? --SHB2000 (talk) 11:30, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'd have thought so, along with the scatter of outlying smaller settlements with which it is connected by road. By and by converting the present bulleted list(s) into a list with cells in which further notes can be added ought to add value to the article. Geopersona (talk) 08:51, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That could also work, though I'm not sure if it would create accessibility issues for mobile users. --SHB2000 (talk) 01:25, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]