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Potential additions

The French Gasconade Defeated (1743):^[1]
The Book of America (1766):^[2]
Chapter 37th (1782):^[3]
The Chronicles of the Kings of England (1744)^[4]
Chronicles of Nathan Ben Saddi (1758)^[5]
The Fall of Samuel the Squomicutite (1763)^[6]^[7]
The First Book of the American Chronicles (1775)^[8]
The Conquest of Canaan (1785)^[9]
The American Revolution (1793)^[10]
Reformer Chronicles (1832)^[11]

Darmokand (talk) 08:03, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

These seem to pass visual inspection, so i'll BOLDly add them, but double check, pls! Darmokand (talk) 13:33, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

^ Boston Evening Post, Oct. 31, 1743 The French Gasconade defeated, and then swept out of Germany Retrieved August 2014.
^ Boston Gazette, May 12, 1766 The Book of America Retrieved August 2014.
^ Boston Evening Post, April 20, 1782 Chapter 37th Retrieved August 2014.
^ Dodsley, Robert (1744) The Chronicle of the Kings of England
^ A Fragment of the Chronicles of Nathan Ben Saddi ; A Rabbi of the Jews, Lately Discovered in the RUINS of Herculaneum Philadelphia. 1758.
^ Hopkins, Samuel (1763) The Fall of Samuel the Squomicutite Rhode Island.
^ https://books.google.com/books?id=QrcyAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA209
^ Leacock, John (1775) The First Book of the American Chronicles
^ Dwight, Timothy (1785) The Conquest of Canaan
^ Snowden, Richard (1793) The American Revolution
^ Reformer Chronicles New York. 1832.

(So much for the clean start, HectorMoffet). To the topic at hand, individual items on a list should follow Wikipedia's content policies, such as the core content policies of Verifiability (through good sources in the item's one or more references) and No original research. Verifiability is not determined by editors' own evaluation of the material. There should also be some topical relevance or notability to each item, or some other selection criterion to avoid creating an indiscriminate list. Also, the current citation used to support the inclusion is very far removed from being a reliable source. I'll admit that one of the reasons I turned Pseudo-Biblicism into a redirect is because that article was being used as a coatrack to legitimize and publish the off-wiki original research by the maintainers of that site. I don't think we lose anything by waiting for reliable sources and a discussion to reach some kind of consensus on a selection criteria. --FyzixFighter (talk) 06:11, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's cool :) I agree Wordtree isn't a RS, won't re-add without finding good sources first. Darmokand (talk) 08:35, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think you should also add "Translation from a Chaldee Manuscript" by James Hogg. Here is a link: https://lordbyron.org/doc.php?&choose=JaHogg.1817.Chaldee.xml 131.194.201.201 (talk) 02:50, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Chronicles of Eri

I came here because Chronicles of Eri was added to Category:Works in the style of the King James Bible. There is no reference in the article to the book being written in the style of the KJB, and there is no citation in this list for it. Chris and Duane Johnson have written (here for instance) that The Late War influenced both The Book of Mormon and The Chronicles of Eri, but they specifically excluded any similarities to the KJB from their study. Thus, while a similarity between the Chronicles and the KJB is implied, it fails WP:V. It would be good if somebody in the know could provide a citation, because I don't really want to remove such a likely candidate from the list. Scolaire (talk) 12:24, 9 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I had thought that it was listed in either Eran Shalev's "Written in the Style of Antiquity" journal article or his "American Zion" book, but it looks like that is not the case (or at least I can't confirm at the time - if anyone has direct access to these sources, please check). Looking at the article history, in looks like it was in the original list when the article was created so you might trying asking the originator, User:Darmokand, if there was an actual reference for its inclusion that would satisfy WP:V. In the mean time, let's all keep looking. --FyzixFighter (talk) 16:58, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I've left him a note. He hasn't been active for a few weeks, so I'll do nothing until he has a chance to see it. Scolaire (talk) 06:54, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Boston Evening Post, Oct. 31, 1743 The French Gasconade defeated, and then swept out of Germany Retrieved August 2014.

[2] Boston Gazette, May 12, 1766 The Book of America Retrieved August 2014.

[3] Boston Evening Post, April 20, 1782 Chapter 37th Retrieved August 2014.

[4] Dodsley, Robert (1744) The Chronicle of the Kings of England

[5] A Fragment of the Chronicles of Nathan Ben Saddi ; A Rabbi of the Jews, Lately Discovered in the RUINS of Herculaneum Philadelphia. 1758.

[6] Hopkins, Samuel (1763) The Fall of Samuel the Squomicutite Rhode Island.

[7] ttps://books.google.com/books?id=QrcyAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA209

[8] Leacock, John (1775) The First Book of the American Chronicles

[9] Dwight, Timothy (1785) The Conquest of Canaan

[10] Snowden, Richard (1793) The American Revolution

[11] Reformer Chronicles New York. 1832.

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