Talk:List of U.S. places named after non-U.S. places

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Reasons for reverting changes:

1. Vancouver WA pre-dates Vancouver BC by some 60 years, so the former was not named for the latter. 2. Wales and Scotland are not cities and certainly not in England; they're countries in the UK. 3. Ottawa, IL was apparently named for the Ottawa River, not the city. 4. Paris and London are already in the list and, as it says in the intro, there's only one entry per foreign city in this list. Dtilque (talk) 05:57, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of U.S. places named after non-U.S. places

A river can be cobsidered a place, can't it? Also, a country can be cobsidered a place as well. Aminabzz (talk) 15:16, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There's Scotland a city in Archer County in the U.S. state of Texas. Being a US city named after a country within the UK, how does this fit in with this article? (or not?) See the page: Scotland, Texas. 213.78.27.20 (talk) 23:49, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cities?

Most of the UK places listed are not cities, but towns, districts or even villages - see City status in the United Kingdom 217.36.212.140 (talk) 10:16, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I was about to say exactly the same thing. A particularly bad example is Blenheim Palace, which isn't even a village - it's a house! Blenheim, South Carolina is in fact named after the German village of Blindheim. Narky Blert (talk) 12:35, 9 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's true that towns, villages, hamlets, civil parishes, communes, townships, castles and country homes are also included in the list. That, in fact, is mentioned in the lede, or at least most of them. The problem is that getting all this into a title makes the title cumbersome.

I see three ways we can solve this: 1) make the title correct by including all those other things, 2) change "cities" in the title to a vague term like "places", 3) break the list up so that cities are in one list, towns are in another, etc.

Solution #1 I've already indicated my dislike of. Solution #3 has problems in that every country has its own definition of "city", "town", etc., so to be hyper correct there'd have to be a separate set of lists for every country. This is not a good thing to do. So how about doing #2? Agree or no?

PS. The source cited says Blenheim SC is actually named for the English palace. The palace in turn was named for the town where the Battle of Blenheim took place, as was Blenheim NJ, which is on the list in the Germany section. If you have a better cite, let me know.Dtilque (talk) 06:27, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Rename

Does anyone care if this page is renamed? The recent conclusion of the AfD suggested a rename, but I personally don't want it. However, there'll probably be future AfD's if the name stays the same, so how about List of US places named for non-US places? Dtilque (talk) 06:17, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Philadelphia

the city Philadelphia is forgotten here It was the former name of modern Amman, Capital of Jordan Also, one of Paraguayan cities is named after it (Filadelfia) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aminabzz (talk • contribs) 12:13, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Philadelphia PA was not named after any city in another country, either modern or ancient. It was just named for its meaning "city of brotherly love". Dtilque (talk) 08:47, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Can you please explain how does that mean "city of brotherly love"? Aminabzz (talk) 15:04, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Philadelphia is likely named not after the modern Amman, but after the Philadelphia that occurs in the book of Revelation, which is modern Alaşehir in Turkey - see for instance https://talesoftimesforgotten.com/2020/02/10/the-shocking-true-origin-of-the-name-philadelphia/ or https://hiddencityphila.org/2012/09/lydia-or-neo-caesarea-or-alasehir-just-call-it-philadelphia/ . Not adding this because I can't find a reputable source. Miclugo (talk) 19:07, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Belgium, Wisconsin

Please add Belgium, Wisconsin to the list. See the Toponymy section of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgium,_Wisconsin Steve54301 (talk) 20:21, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Definition of place

The lead states: "In the case of this list, place means any named location that's smaller than a county or equivalent: cities, towns, villages, hamlets, neighborhoods, municipalities, boroughs, townships, civil parishes, localities, Census Designated Places, and some districts." This exludes places like Germany, Texas or Belgium, Wisconsin, which are definitely U.S. places named after non-U.S. places. What's the point of that? Lennart97 (talk) 15:11, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wonderful page; how to also sort by state + territory?

I would like to thank everyone who has helped make this page, and to improve it; much work is needed to make sure everyone knows history, like Vancouver WA predating its Canadian counterpart in BC; thanks for providing such historical accuracy.

I am new to editing Wikipedia and barely can add to an existing table; I’m sure I can learn and just need life to offer more opportunities do learn how to me more capable with edits.

To that end… this page is wonderfully organized by the non-US Places, which is great.

Is it possible that there could be a section on the page that, dynamically, sorts by the US locations? Can Wikipedia dynamically resort content from the existing lists to create a new table on another section of this page (or on a separate page?) that sorts alphabetically by the names of the 50 states and also our Nation’s territories?

It would also be nice if the dynamically-created table could also auto-calculate the total counts of the named locations of each state/territory in sortable column.

And yes, clearly the work-around is to just search the page for your state/territory name.

Thanks, Mike

How to “flip” this tk be a list of non-US places in each of the 50 states?

Is there a way to make it so that all items in this list auto-populate a matching list which is sorted by the names of each of our 50 United States?

Then, if/when someone adds <new place>, State it will also be on that other list?

Is there any easy way to see a list of all towns in each of the 50 states?

Thanks, Mike VVFamEdits (talk) 04:14, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Palestine, Illinois

I’m new to editing and was hoping to add Palestine, Illinois to this list, but I have several questions. First, as someone else mentioned, this list doesn’t account for US Places named after places that aren’t cities or towns. Second, I’m not how to treat the non-US Palestine since its status is disputed, and all the linked headings on this list are for countries. Any tips? WaterlooEditorGuy (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 21:16, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Berlin and Carthage

The list does not include Berlin, New Hampshire. There are also two Carthages not on the list; one in Texas and one in Mississippi. I don’t know how to edit otherwise I would have done it. 2600:1700:A981:40B0:59C3:1354:F72B:6EB1 (talk) 01:12, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WaterlooEditorGuy,

Hi, my name is Mike, and I've added a few edits over the years; I've just returned to this page for the first time in a while and see your inquiry... apologies I hadn't seen it sooner.

I added Berlin, NH, then re-alphabetized all 7 Berlins per state name.

I had added some Missouri towns with names "from the 'old country'" and was informed that I should look closer... some were named for the town in another state that is named for "the old country," so they didn't officially need to be on this list... this list is direct naming for the "old country."

The Wikipedia page for Carthage, TX does not appear to note the namesake of the town, but it now does, per this information on the Carthage, TN page:

"Carthage {Mississippi} was established in 1834, and became the county seat. The Harris family were early settlers, and named the town after their former home of [Carthage, Tennessee.]"

"When [Carthage, Texas] established in 1848, it was named after [Carthage, Mississippi]."

So I added

1) on the Carthage, TX page:

"Carthage, Mississippi was established in 1834, and became the county seat. The Harris family were early settlers, and named the town after their former home of Carthage, Tennessee. When Carthage, Texas established in 1848, it was named after Carthage, Mississippi. ^[1] "

and

2) on this 'List of US Places...' page:

in the Notes column, on the Carthage, TN row:

"Per the Carthage, Mississippi page, Carthage MS is named for Carthage, TN, and Carthage, TX is named for Carthage, MS...

"Carthage[, Mississippi] was established in 1834, and became the county seat. The Harris family were early settlers, and named the town after their former home of Carthage, Tennessee."

"When [Carthage, Texas] established in 1848, it was named after Carthage, Mississippi."

^[2]"

I hope this is the edit you were looking for.

Thanks,

Mike VVFamEdits (talk) 18:07, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

Angola

On scrolling through this list I thought of adding the Louisiana State Penitentiary, often called "Angola" - but I'm not sure if this fits the definition of place. Miclugo (talk) 18:59, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delhi, California

I wanted to add Delhi, California, but I couldn’t get the format to work. Can someone who knows about the format add it? Windywendi (talk) 02:22, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's simple. Tap on the edit button and copy every format that is used for previous entries. Aminabzz (talk) 15:02, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Teheran, Illinois

There is a small locality named Teheran in the state of Illinois and you can see it on Google Maps. Since it's named after Tehran can we include it to the list? Aminabzz (talk) 15:12, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Russia, New York

Must I provide more info when it’s literally named Russia after the Russians who moved there? 2600:1017:B009:732C:7DFF:903D:91FA:9363 (talk) 17:52, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Philadelphia

As their was an ancient egyptian city named Philadelphia I was wondering whether the american city’s name wasn’t inspired by it? 31.164.88.6 (talk) 19:31, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New York City not included?

New York City seems to be a bit of a glaring omission from the places named after places in the UK. I can't see any reason. Was NYC renamed (from New Amsterdam) after a pre-existing New York elsewhere, or is it just a mistake not mentioning it? RubyDupy (talk) 15:01, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RubyDupy your question had me stumped for a second but I read New_York_City#Etymology and its says New York was named after a person (the Duke of York) rather than a place. Commander Keane (talk) 22:29, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage,_Mississippi

[2] ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage,_Mississippi

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