Talk:List of Steven Universe episodes/Archive 1

Archive 1

Archive 2

Archive 3

Ratings sources

Sonofthebronx is not considered a reliable source (see 1 and 2). Please use more reliable sources like TVByTheNumbers. EvergreenFir (talk) 15:23, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

The article on itself suggests otherwise. Also, per WP:UGC:

Self-published material may sometimes be acceptable when its author is an established expert whose work in the relevant field has been published by reliable third-party publications. Self-published information should never be used as a source about a living person, even if the author is a well-known professional researcher or writer; see WP:BLP#Reliable sources.

which said article and the first noticeboard discussion you liked also makes clear. Whisternefet (t · c · l) 22:34, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Shall we open a new RS noticebaord post to see if others agree? Frankly, I'd like to use Sonofthebronx as it's hard to get good viewership stats. EvergreenFir (talk) 02:20, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

If you think it's relevant, go for it. The previous discussions seem to be fuzzy of its use in third-party publications, I reckon, which I'm sure the article substantiates now. Whisternefet (t · c · l) 03:05, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

I have created a new thread about the site at the reliable sources noticeboard; if you're interested, see Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Son of the Bronx. Whisternefet (t · c · l) 04:52, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! EvergreenFir (talk) 22:33, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Whisternefet did we ever get a ruling on this? EvergreenFir (talk) 03:42, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

New Episode Airdates

If you're going to post an air date for new episodes, please provide a source. Preferably to the article itself but at the very least on the talk page so it can be verified. There's a lot of false information out there about when the show is returning so future air dates need a source so they can be confirmed as legitimate.

Thank you - Artemis Panthar (talk) 00:31, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Airdates

Is this page only for US airdates or do international air dates count as well? "Coach Steven" aired in South Korea on June 7th and Canada on July 14th but I'm unsure if they should apply here Artemis Panthar (talk) 23:26, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Well if it aired in a country earlier than the US you can put it as a note. Koala15 (talk) 23:51, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Merger proposal

I propose that both Giant Woman and Lion 2: The Movie be merged into this list, because, although I created them with as much third-party coverage as possible, I think they still fall short of the general notability guideline. The first article contains four third-party sources, but only one dealing with the subject (critically). The second article contains two out of three secondary sources critically dealing with the subject at hand, which is getting there, but both the article and the first one rely entirely on primary sources for production information. That last point isn't too bad I guess, but combined with the lack of third-party coverage, it makes both less than adequate. 23W 04:36, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

I think they look very nice, and i don't know where we would merge them anyway. Koala15 (talk) 14:51, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Agree... they seem fine to me. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 21:19, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

They're certainly well-constructed, but yeah, I do see lack of third-party coverage as a potential reason to merge them here. Holiday56 (talk) 12:08, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

I know discussion has died here and the merge proposal tag was taken from the list but I still believe that the episodes are not particularly notable despite the coverage given. Would AfD be an appropriate avenue for broader consensus? 23W 09:05, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, probably. Koala15 (talk) 14:46, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Season 1 is actually 52 episodes

According to the show's writer (see here: http://mc-burnett.tumblr.com/post/92840559041/comic-con-exclusive-cartoon-network-renews-adventure), season 1 is 52 episodes long not 26 however I'm unsure if a tumblr post is considered sufficient proof of this. Season 2 will also be 52 episodes. I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on if we could add this information to the page, or do we need to wait until it has a more official source? Artemis Panthar (talk) 02:22, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Are we going to get any action on this? I think the source is very clear, so it's either a valid source or it isn't.

-Grand Commander13 (talk) 02:11, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

I haven't heard anything more on it from other Wiki editors. However I have another, newer statement from the same writer talking about how the season is broken up (see here: http://mc-burnett.tumblr.com/post/97435671706/yo-im-from-the-obsessive-bureaucrat-part-of-the) if that helps anyone at all

Artemis Panthar (talk) 02:40, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

52 Episode seasons

There's significant evidence that this show has 52 episode seasons All assumptions that the seasons are 26 episodes long are conjecture and directly contradicts the information given to fans by both the show's writer and the show's storyboard supervisor. i'm also confident the production codes will reflect that all of the first 52 episodes are within the same season. I do not see reason to split the season in half just on the assumption that a season must contain 26 episodes when Adventure Time has also had a 52 episode long season so this format is not without precedent on the network. Please allow me to keep this page reflecting the information relayed to us by the staff of the show. If more information is required, please let me know and I'll inquire with the show's staff to see if we can get a more official word on it Artemis Panthar (talk) 21:55, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

I think this is the right call. The Mirror Gem/Ocean Gem double-feature would probably be being billed as a "season finale", rather than a "half-hour special event" if Cartoon Network had made the decision to publicly call twenty-six episodes a season.

-Grand Commander13 (talk) 21:48, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Space Race

Space Race is listed on the cartoonnetwork.com Steven Universe page on its drop-down schedule (which you can access here but will need to manually click on the "New Episodes! Thursdays at 6:30/5:30c" link and scroll to the bottom of the drop down). Unfortunately there doesn't seem a way to directly link the drop-down schedule but here's a screenshot which you can verify yourself.

Once the episode is listed on an accepted TV Guide source I'll add a proper source to it but I think this is official enough to accept the entry for the time being. Artemis Panthar (talk) 05:34, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Fusion Cuisine

"Fusion Cuisine" is now listed the cartoonnetwork.com Steven Universe page on its drop-down schedule (which you can access here but will need to manually click on the "New Episodes! Thursdays at 6:30/5:30c" link and scroll to the bottom of the drop down), so it cannot be directly linked to at this time. Here's a screenshot which you can check against the drop-down schedule yourself. Artemis Panthar (talk) 22:16, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Regarding the title, as linked above the episode is listed as "Fusion Cuisine" on the Cartoon Network schedule, which indicates that that's the title they're going with. The previous title, "Fusion Crime", was taken from the production list and production titles have differed from aired titles before - for example, the production list listed "10,000 Birthdays" which was retitled "So Many Birthdays" when it aired. This precident makes it most likely that the title on the CN page is the official title while the one of the production list was the working title. As such, the title should remain "Fusion Cuisine" until more concrete evidence is found for "Fusion Crime" Artemis Panthar (talk) 05:24, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Garnet's Universe

"Garnet's Universe" is now listed the cartoonnetwork.com Steven Universe page on its drop-down schedule (which you can access here but will need to manually click on the "New Episodes! Thursdays at 6:30/5:30c" link and scroll to the bottom of the drop down), so it cannot be directly linked to at this time. Here's a screenshot which you can check against the drop-down schedule. Artemis Panthar (talk) 04:28, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Lion 3: Straight to Video

"Lion 3: Straight to Video" is now listed the cartoonnetwork.com Steven Universe page on its drop-down schedule (which you can access here but will need to manually click on the "New Episodes! Thursdays at 6:30/5:30c" link and scroll to the bottom of the drop down), so it cannot be directly linked to at this time. Here's a screenshot which you can check against the drop-down schedule. Artemis Panthar (talk) 06:09, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Episode summaries

Should the episode summaries really be as lengthy as the current summaries for episodes 1-8 are? I always thought it worked better as short, one or two line descriptions like the current descriptions for episodes 9-43 since the long descriptions make the page look cluttered

Would it be permissible to shorten the summaries for 1-8 to their original descriptions? Artemis Panthar (talk) 19:28, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

I went and shortened the descriptions, they were much too long and made the list harder to use as an 'at a glance' sort of information. I don't think its necessary to describe the episode scene for scene on this page, which is what the descriptions were doing. No other CN show page has episode descriptions longer than a sentence or two and the descriptions TV Guide and other sources use are only a sentence long as well. Additionally, the page looked very unbalanced with only some of the descriptions having a massive paragraph and the rest having the usual sentence-long summary.

I apologize if this was out of line, but I think the list looks much better without the clutter.

Artemis Panthar (talk) 17:34, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Season 1/Season 2 mix up with Steven Bomb

Season one now has 49 episodes. Full Disclosure begins season 2. The entire explanation here: http://matt-burnett.tumblr.com/post/113119840091/for-those-who-are-letting-this-distract-them-from would someone please change the tables - fluffydipper — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fluffydipper (talk • contribs) 02:19, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Season one has 52 episodes, they're just being aired out of order. I'm unsure how to proceed at this point. I was thinking it might be a good idea to leave it as is until we get an official episode list (probably when the season 1 DVD eventually comes out) and then edit it accordingly. Perhaps we could ask Matt or another of the crew for the originally episode order after everything has aired. I just think reordering the episodes so that that season 1 is 49 episodes and season 2 is 55 is incorrect, because we've already received confirmation that they're 52 episode seasons. I think this is kind of the equivalent of when an episode gets skipped or 'lost', they're still technically a part of that season... Perhaps we should move "Full Disclosure" to season 2 and leave "Open Book" and "Shirt Club" in season 1 and maybe add an entry for "Story for Steven" and then add the air dates once we get it? Artemis Panthar (talk) 02:30, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Well, I don't know I guess. Goddamn it. This is why I hate these 15 minute episodes, everything is out of order. Let's just leave it for now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fluffydipper (talk • contribs) 02:36, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Reordering Season 1 and 2

It's been confirmed by the crew that "Jail Break" was the season 1 finale and "Full Disclosure" is the season 2 premiere, and that the episodes "Open Book", "Shirt Club", and "Story for Steven" are part of season 1 but will be aired out of order (you can read about this here: http://matt-burnett.tumblr.com/post/113119840091/for-those-who-are-letting-this-distract-them-from). I'm unsure what the protocol is in these instances but for the time being, to properly reflect the seasons, I moved the episodes around so that "Jail Break" is properly reflected as the last episode of season 1 while "Full Disclosure" is the first episode of season 2 and moved the other episodes around according to approximately where they're meant to be. I figure we can reorder them once we get more information but at least for now it should best reflect the proper season order without confusing people about how the season ends/begins.

I apologize if this isn't proper protocol, I was just unsure what to do considering the information we know, the wiki was incorrect and I wanted to fix that Artemis Panthar (talk) 22:59, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

I would like to point out that "Full Disclosure" is listed as Season 2 on CN's website (http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/steven-universe/full-disclosure-episode.html) Artemis Panthar (talk) 17:42, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 March 2015

Make changes to Episode 52's short summary for a spoiler-free synopsis, which fits with the rest of the episode synopses. {{Episode list |EpisodeNumber=52 |EpisodeNumber2=3 |Title=Joy Ride |RTitle=<ref name="zap2it"/> |WrittenBy=Hilary Florido and Katie Mitroff |OriginalAirDate={{Start date|2015|03|26}} |ProdCode=<div style="color: grey;"><small>TBA</small></div> |Viewers=<div style="color: grey;"><small>TBA</small></div> |ShortSummary= The Cool Kids help Steven put some fun back in his life. |LineColor=169408 }} 107.145.170.27 (talk) 12:26, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Not done: See WP:SPOILER. Dcbanners (talk) 19:59, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2015

Remove the list of guest actors from "Say Uncle". It's the only episode with guests listed, and it's not really necessary to the article. 68.37.227.226 (talk) 03:46, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Done EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 03:50, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 April 2015

Please change the Season 2 link in the Series overview section ([[#Season 2 (2015)|2]]) to use the full page name ([[List of Steven Universe episodes#Season 2 (2015)|2]]). This should fix the broken link on the main Steven Universe page. :-) 46.194.4.158 (talk) 22:02, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Done Stickee (talk) 22:31, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Rising Tides/Crashing Skies

Lauren Zuke (storyboarder) confirms "Rising Rides/Crashing Skies" as a legitimate episode and says its only one episode, not two. Source can be found here: http://laurenzuke.tumblr.com/post/117631791054/is-rising-tides-crashing-skies-real-some-people Artemis Panthar (talk) 21:37, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Airing date of the pilot episode

I didn't notice any citations for the airing date of pilot, July 27, 2013. On Steven Universe, it is claimed that

The pilot episode for Steven Universe, along with a few other pilots, were released on Cartoon Network's video platform on May 21, 2013. They were taken down and redirected to a 404 page shortly after. On July 20, 2013, Cartoon Network uploaded an edited version of the pilot to both their official website and Facebook page. The pilots were also exhibited at the San Diego Comic-Con, and from July 27 to July 28, 2013, Cartoon Network aired a sneak peek of the pilot as part of Big Fan Weekend, along with the pilots for Clarence and Uncle Grandpa.

(I have removed references for clarity, but they can be found on that Steven Universe article.)

It seems reasonable to me that airing date is set to May 21, 2013, as it was then when CN first released the episode officially, despite being taken down shortly after. In addition, July 27 2013 seems to refer to an incomplete airing ('sneak peek'). I propose that the date is set to May 21, 2013, with a note added that this refers to a release on internet video platform and not on TV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.195.199.195 (talk) 17:09, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

New Episode Airdates

All new episode airdates should have a valid source confirming the information. If there's no confirmation for an airdate, it should remain TBA. Please do not add wild guesses as airdates, these should be confirmed airdates only. Artemis Panthar (talk) 01:27, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Is IMDB an accepted source for release dates? I've found it can be edited by anyone and in fact used to have the release dates listed as October. I do not think they're admissible as a source but I would like someone else's opinion on this matter Artemis Panthar (talk) 23:34, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

The IMDB source has changed again, listing "Rising Tides/Crashing Skies" as August 21st. I think this is an indication that this is not a solid source, since IMDB is editable by anyone. I think we should probably wait to use a more reliable source lest we end up having to continuously change the date to match it, when its highly likely inaccurate Artemis Panthar (talk) 19:27, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Here's a tweet by Ian Jones-Quartey (Supervising Director) confirmed that the June 4th return date is false - https://twitter.com/ianjq/status/599233546998296576 Artemis Panthar (talk) 03:43, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Slumber Party

New Steven Universe episode is "Slumber Party". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.90.92.39 (talk) 18:35, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

You're going to need to provide a source before it can be added to the article. Artemis Panthar (talk) 18:42, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

It's called "Chille Tid". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.162.26 (talk) 19:49, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2015

i want to edit this site but it seems it can't be edited. Please make this article eidtable. StevenUniversee (talk) 12:57, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Not done: Article is protected by admins because of vandalism. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 00:02, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 June 2015

I want to edit the dates of the new episodes because they have been confirmed but they are not on here.

06:59, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

 Not done This is not the right page to request additional user rights.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request. - Arjayay (talk) 07:18, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Defining Reliable Sources

I have a problem with a certain user who doesn't know what a reliable source is. He is going through a power trip right now because I used a post from Reddit by the CREATOR HERSELF, Rebecca Sugar, confirming the fact that Genndy Tartakovsky directed the animation of the pilot episode of Steven Universe. So apparently, Reddit posts from a reliable person, such as the HEAD HONCHO of a television program cannot be used because they're unreliable?!?! Help please! BTW, Here's the post from Reddit itself. https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2e4gmx/i_am_rebecca_sugar_creator_of_steven_universe_and/cjw8425

Thank you. Stephen Cezar (StephenCezar15 (talk) 03:44, 10 June 2015 (UTC))

Rising Tides/Crashing Skies and Keeping It Together

On the Steven Bomb 2.0 chart thing, Connie's head is on Monday, and Ronaldo's is on Tuesday; The episodes are obviously Sworn to the Sword and Rising Tides/Crashing Skies, respectively. Right now we don't know when Keeping It Together is going to air (If I could take a guess, probably on Wednesday or Friday). Point is, Rising Tides/Crashing Skies and Keeping It Together should be switched on the episode list. 67.142.162.23 (talk) 04:06, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Not done: Need a reliable source that says this. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 00:05, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Here's the Chart Thing: > And here's the premiere info: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.162.23 (talk) 20:18, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

References

New opening

For the episode 'Sworn to the Sword', there should be a note on it to show this is the first episode to introduce a new opening sequence. 86.42.124.113 (talk) 14:08, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not explained why this is important, and have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 18:52, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

We can cite the episode itself... EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 18:55, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Chille Tid writers

Tweet found here — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artemis Panthar (talk • contribs) 07:10, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 June 2015

Please change the description of the episode Chille Tid ((Season 2 Episode 13)) from "Garnet has Pearl and Amethyst accompany Steven, exhausted from a night spent searching for Malachite in the ocean with the Gems, in the temple for a slumber party. However, Steven is rattled by recurring dreams of Lapis." to "Steven and the Gems hope a slumber party will allow them some time to relax." to prevent possible spoilers for people who have not seen the episode. Toy bon (talk) 15:34, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

 Not done we don't avoid spoilers - see Wikipedia:Spoiler = Arjayay (talk) 18:54, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2015

Under season 2 change Titles for: 14 from TBA to "Cry For Help", 15 from TBA to "Keystone Motel", 16 from TBA to "Onion Friend", 17 from TBA to "Historical Friction", 18 from TBA to "Friend Ship"

Based on source: http://www.toonzone.net/forums/threads/cartoon-network-july-2015-premiere-info.5489441/

RianovRV1 (talk) 23:08, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Not done: That is not a reliable source. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 00:01, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Small edit to "An Indirect Kiss"

Greetings! I made an edit a decent while ago to this page, simply adding a tidbit about Rose's Fountain to the episode description of "An Indirect Kiss". The reason being is that on that day, I wanted to find which episode that location was featured in, since a majority of the episode took place at that location, and I tried to use Ctrl+F and type "Rose's Fountain" and got no matches. I eventually found the information on a different website, and after rewatching the episode, decided to come back here and make this edit. I saw my edit was later removed (in an edit without any edit summary), by a person who was later blocked from editing this page.

I came here asking if it's okay for this edit to be added back in. I find it would be useful for those who may be coming to this page quickly trying to find the same information I was, and at the same time, it provides just a bit more useful information to the episode, without spoiling any events that occur. If those of you here would rather not have this edit in, fine enough. Just wouldn't hurt to ask is my thought. Thank you for your time. JaykeBird (talk) 14:11, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 July 2015

At the bottom of the page in the description for the short "Just Lion Things," it says: "Note: This short was released on Tumblr and Vine." The "Vine" hyperlink, however, is not a link to the page about the video app, but to a page about the actual vines that grow in nature. If it's possible, could someone please change the link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vine_(service) instead of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vine ? Thank you! 24.102.187.22 (talk) 14:23, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for pointing that out - Arjayay (talk) 15:53, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Season 1 Airing Order

Ian Jones-Quarty, the supervising director of the show, recently posted the official Season 1 airing order (you can find it here: http://ianjq.tumblr.com/post/123939657564/now-that-all-the-season-1-episodes-are-out-could). Would it be permissible to re-order the episode list to match it? Since this is the order it would be if/when a DVD is released — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artemis Panthar (talk • contribs) 02:21, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 July 2015

Request: Supervising Director Ian Jones-Quartey posted the show's official episode order for Season 1, making this Wiki's order now out of order. He also added that this list will be the requested episode order for the Blu Ray if they get one.

"I dug thru our old stuff and doublechecked everything. Here’s the order as we intended it (in shareable image form!):"

"Obviously things had to change to make sure the finale aired with all of the more plot-relevant episodes in order. If they ever make a BluRay, this is the order we’ll ask for."

Source: http://ianjq.tumblr.com/post/123939657564/now-that-all-the-season-1-episodes-are-out-could

JohnTheArtist (talk) 00:11, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Not done: Tumblr can only be used when the information looking to be cited is directly about the person themselves. Since this would be about a project and not directly about them, it can't be used. Also, if a better source can be found, this wouldn't change the order, as the order is formatted by broadcast date on nearly all episode lists on wikipedia. A note (if sourced) could be placed at the top about the intended order though. Sulfurboy (talk) 21:54, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 July 2015

Please change  Super Watermelon Island TBA to Super Watermelon Island august 6th 2015

196.206.152.249 (talk) 16:09, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Not done: Need to provide a reliable source for any upcoming air dates. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 16:14, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Season 2 episode list

Season 2 episode list is missing the second episode Open Book. It also is throwing the numbers off for the season. Thank you! Have a great day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.205.65.98 (talk) 08:09, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

"Open Book" (as well as "Story for Steven" and "Shirt Club") was part of the Season 1 order (but aired as part of Season 2), so appears below the season 1 finale in the Season 1. Sceptre ^(talk) 11:07, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 July 2015

Episode 50 Full disclosure Is the last episode of season 1. NOT the first episode of season two. please fix this. 2601:18D:8102:A030:D104:6A7D:36F:A37E (talk) 08:46, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

 Question: - Do you have a reliable source to support that? There appears to be conflicting information online. Cartoon Network lists 52 episodes in season 1 (click "See more" a bunch of times), but doesn't list Full Disclosure as one of them. AV Club says it's episode 50 of season 1. Amazon just calls each DVD a season... sigh. I'm inclined to say we rearrange the order based on the Cartoon Network list since that seems the most official. I know that would mean that the airdates would be out of order. Pinging Sandstein for a third opinion. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 12:11, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I think we should go with the Cartoon Network website, though the season-ing, as it were, of the series is a bit of a mess. Ian Jones-Quartey has his own list of the first season in intended watching order, and "Full Disclosure" isn't on it either. Marking request as answered, as in, "no".  Sandstein  14:40, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I'll rearrange the order soon. Thanks! EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 14:42, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm actually not sure what the guidelines are here: intended order or aired order? Whichever confuses readers the least, I suppose.  Sandstein  15:43, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

There's intended order, official order, and aired order... Went with official since the first two columns are episode numbers. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 16:06, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

It makes much more sense to use broadcast order. Even the creators make it clear that the finale is "Jail Break" (source 1, source 2). In addition, I'd like to add that the Cartoon Network site shouldn't be considered reliable in this case because it lists "Full Disclosure" as S02E50 (clearly wrong), "Joy Ride" as S02E52 (wrong), "Shirt club" as S01E03, and "Story for Steven" as S01E02. These are so off that I can't help but feel that episode listing is not up-to-date after the Steven Bombs changed the ordering, and was filled with incorrect information as a result. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koepful (talk • contribs) 09:25, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

New episodes

23W I still do not see the new episodes listed on either the wayback machine or the actual source. I have tried on Firefox and Internet Explorer. I've hit "more" until the list is exhausted, which is at Friendship. I don't see it in the HTML source code either. Can you please provide some other source or a screencap or something? EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 02:45, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

@EvergreenFir: In the page source the episodes have the unique selectors of li.episode:nth-child(17) through li.episode:nth-child(44). In your browser's web console you can return the first of these elements by inputting document.querySelector("li.episode:nth-child(17)");.

Turns out there's an cached version which presents these episode more directly, so I've used the archive of that cache instead. 23W 03:45, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

@23W: Awesome! Thank you! Mind updating the ref with that cached version? I can do it if you prefer. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 03:52, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Done. :-) 23W 04:02, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 04:12, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 August 2015

Just for visual clarity and further accuracy, I think the three part episode for season 2 (Beta, Earthlings, Back 2 the Moon) should be numbered in the same format as The Return and Jailbreak, with the (1) and (2), and in this case, (3).

Also, since we know the season has 52 episodes (http://stevencrewniverse.tumblr.com/post/92948802132), and the table lists 48, it would make sense to add the remaining four (whose titles haven't been revealed) to the table as "TBA" for all fields. Ccarretti (talk) 00:56, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Already done Someone added the 1-2-3 format change already. Regards, Older and ... well older (talk) 16:02, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

New Episode Titles and Descriptions

Like airdates, new episode titles and descriptions also require a reliable source, especially since its very common for fake episodes to be passed around and widely believed to be legitimate even when they're not. Also, the episodes must be found in the attached source, please do not add a source where the episode cannot actually be found. Artemis Panthar (talk) 19:34, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

New Episode Airdates

Just a reminder, all air dates for new episodes need to be sourced from somewhere reliable (TVguide.com, Zap2It, Cartoonnetwork.com, etc - NOT IMDB! IMDB is user-edited and has repeatedly had false dates for Steven Universe) and cannot be guesses. This page is very prone to vandalism and wild incorrect guessing at return dates and as such any new air dates added without an approved source should be removed as they're likely incorrect. Artemis Panthar (talk) 02:43, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Does a storyboard artist count a reliable source? Lauren Zuke said Catch and Release is supposed to be after Nightmare Hospital, not Sadie's Song. 71.199.199.144 (talk) 17:35, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Storyboard artists are a reliable source, but not necessarily for scheduling. Scheduling is done by the network and the crew often learn of the schedule at the same time we do. I think her tweet definitely tells us that "Catch and Release" is supposed to follow "Nightmare Hospital" but I don't think that rules out the network shuffling around the episodes without the crew's knowledge (its something CN does a lot). In a couple days, other official sources like CN.com and Zap2It should add their September 17th listing and that should tell us what CN has decided to air. But for now, I think we need to defer to the current official schedule on TVGuide.com. Artemis Panthar (talk) 18:59, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Rose's Room Viewer Statistics

I found a site that lists Nielson Media Research data for viewer count on Steven Universe episodes. It includes Rose's Room at 1.547 viewers Given that its data is consistent with the rest of the data on this wiki, I'm inclined to trust the information.

71.127.53.149 (talk) 20:51, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

References

Season 1 might actually be 53 episodes long

According to Ian Jones-Quartey (former supervising director of the show), on his tumblr (http://ianjq.tumblr.com/post/123939657564/now-that-all-the-season-1-episodes-are-out-could), the "Say Uncle" episode takes place between "Shirt Club" and "Story for Steven", and not between "Joy Ride" and "Love Letters" during the second season. He talks about old papers and stuff, so I think it might be our most reliable source yet. It looks like that article tries to follow the order intended by the production crew and not CN's airing order, so it might be a good idea to change that, and adapt the other episodes in consequence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.200.185.245 (talk • contribs) 00:54, 19 September, 2015 (UTC)

According to that list, "Alone Together" was meant to be before "Warp Tour" too. nyuszika7h (talk) 09:41, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Fusion

Mega Madridista found this episode! So it should probably be added? 174.32.46.168 (talk) 20:59, 30 October 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.32.46.168 (talk) 02:27, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 18 September 2015

The season 2 episode list is inaccurate, missing several episodes.
Episode 2 is "Open Book", where Steven and Connie spend time in Rose's Room and are tricked by it, and Steven's feelings for Connie are almost brought to light.
Episode 5 is "Story for Steven", in which Steven's father Greg tells the story of how he met Rose Quartz, and about his horrible manager at the time.
Episode 6 is "Shirt Club", where Greg offers guitar lessons and Steven makes shirts for them, catching the attention of Mayor Dewey's son, Buck.
Episode 7 is "Love Letters", where Jamie the mailman falls in love with Garnet at first sight, and becomes obsessed with her, much to Garnet's chagrin.
Please check the episode listings and edit this article accordingly. Thank you. FeelingMyOats (talk) 10:46, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Bazj (talk) 17:38, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

"Open Book," "Story For Steven," and "Shirt Club" were supposed to air during Season 1, but were shuffled into Season 2 for the first StevenBomb. Not sure if this helps with anything. 174.32.46.168 (talk) 21:02, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

July 14: Keystone Motel

Steven Universe episode for July 14 is called Keystone Motel based on new information at http://www.tvguide.com/search/listings/4/?keyword=steven+universe Shiny Metagross (talk) 08:16, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Not done: Source does not contain said info. Moreover, neither does http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/steven-universe/episodes/463798/ EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 16:13, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

@EvergreenFir: Sorry, for some reason, the link malfunctions if you just click it from here. I got that title again after clicking "Listings", then "Watch More" twice. It's then at the bottom of the list with the same URL that I posted. Shiny Metagross (talk) 18:40, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

@Shiny Metagross: Hm... still not finding it. Perhaps someone else can give it a shot? EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 21:28, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

We need the page made NOW!!!!!!!!(Crazybob2014 (talk) 04:09, 1 November 2015 (UTC))

Crazybob2014 Unless you can demonstrate that the episode meets the general notability guideline, i.e. that it, by itself, is notable enough to deserve a stand-alone article, I don't think you're likely to see the community support this. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:55, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Production codes

In the entire Tumblr archive, there are no production codes for Together Breakfast, Friend Ship, Catch and Release or Too Far. TVShowFan122 (talk) 13:46, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Looking through, it turns out that you're right about together breakfast (though since the rest of season 1 has their production codes released, there's really isn't anyplace else the episode would fit). The source for Friend Ship's production code is here (http://stevencrewniverse.tumblr.com/post/124708298292/jeffliujeffliu-some-of-my-storyboards-from), the source for Catch and Release's is here (http://laurenzuke.tumblr.com/post/129869217274/you-half-formed-traitor-mega-clods), and the source for Too Far's is here (http://laurenzuke.tumblr.com/post/131312101764/some-more-and-some-more-under-the-cutmore-i) (you can make out the top of the number four here http://41.media.tumblr.com/ba7a6f63cea6ef7590f8fb1a1947c334/tumblr_nwc5fsSNhv1qzyi4xo7_1280.png)

Since the the one's on Zuke's blog aren't on the crewniverse blog I'll go add reference links the the codes of those two episodes Zemblant (talk) 22:59, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Proposing a "No unofficial leaks" policy for the page

I had a conversation with IanJQ on twitter about which of the newly announced episodes were renamed versions of of which leaked episodes and it resulted in this conversation. Thinking about it, I agree we shouldn't have leaked names, as not all of the names will match the final episodes (especially considering that the most recent batch doesn't even have episode descriptions), plus back when the episodes up to jail break had both their names and descriptions leaked, they weren't listed here until the episodes were official announced on schedules anyways. What I'm proposing is that an episode has to be mentioned on a schedule, in a press release, or at barest minimum mentioned in an interview (so rebecca mentioning The Answer in that interview a few weeks ago would be acceptable grounds to add the episode) Zemblant (talk) 22:19, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

@Zemblant: Support. For an episode to be added to the page it should have a WP:RELIABLE source behind it. I'd agree with this change if it means less factual inaccuracies, especially if leaked episodes have incorrect titles. NottNott talk|contrib 23:16, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Our policy is to repeat what reliable sources report, whether leaked or not. In this case, the titles were published on a normally reliable primary source, the CW website, and not leaked. However, they're clearly now not to be treated as correct, so it's best to explain the situation: List of Steven Universe episodes#Provisional titles.  Sandstein  10:59, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

^Agree. The leaks themselves aren't an issue of they're being reported by reliable sources. But the accuracy is the issue so a new section would be a better idea. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 17:01, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Season 3

On Cartoon Network's website, "Steven's Birthday," "It Could Have Been Great," "Message Received," and "Log Date 7 15 2" are listed as being part of Season 3. Here is the link: http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/steven-universe/episodes/season-3.html173.173.88.165 (talk) 05:48, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that's just someone on the website messing up: snooping through the website's xml shows that episodes are associated with production codes (for example: "Season 1" http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/cnservice/cartoonsvc/content/xml/getContentById.do?contentId=421560 , "Season 2" http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/cnservice/cartoonsvc/content/xml/getContentById.do?contentId=461893 , and "Season 3" http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/cnservice/cartoonsvc/content/xml/getContentById.do?contentId=626694 ) and it lists Steven's Birthday with <episodeNumber>79</episodeNumber>, so it's likely that someone who works on CN's website saw the episode number, noticed that it was a multiple of 26 (an average number of episodes in a season) plus 1, and assumed from that that it was a new season Zemblant (talk) 00:33, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Writer Matt Burnett has stated that the first season is 52 episodes, and all following seasons are 26. (https://twitter.com/mcburnett/status/715266616188080128) As such, despite what the website states, "Steven's Birthday," "It Could Have Been Great," "Message Received," and "Log Date 7 15 2" are the final four episodes of season 2. Season 3 starts in June (http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/30/steven-universe-uncle-grandpa-renewed-season-5-cartoon-network?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter) --146.95.92.196 (talk) 21:33, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Super Watermelon Island

@Minecraft69: I wasn't the one who removed it, but I don't think a foreign country's schedule is a really good source for this, as they may decide to air episodes out of order if it does not affect continuity (and sometimes they do that even if it does affect continuity). nyuszika7h (talk) 15:03, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2016

24.191.123.175 (talk) 15:53, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. nyuszika7h (talk) 15:57, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on April 28th, 2016

Full Disclosure is a standalone episode, it just takes place right after Jail Break. Same with It Could've Been Great, Message Received, and Log Date 7 15 2; While they take place right after each other, they are not multiparters. I request that you take off the part indicator from the episodes. 174.32.46.168 (talk) 00:47, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Sadie's Song Episode placement

Noticed that "Sadie's Song" been placed after "Back to the Barn" a couple of times via history. The only apparent reason that seems so far given for this is that it's based on the fact that the production code of "Sadie's Song" is 1031-073 and thus follows "Back to the Barn" whose code is 1031-072. Pretty sure that's faulty reasoning as Season 1's order, which is backed up by the intended order for Season 1 given in the post by Ian Jones-Quartey, does not follow production code with many episodes. Even a number of other Season 2 episodes don't follow production code either. There could some be other reason why the placement of "Sadie's Song" keeps being changed that I'm not aware of however it's not being brought up or mentioned. If there's indeed some more valid reason other than production code order that justifies placement change, it would be most helpful if it could be shared. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.191.115.86 (talk) 22:46, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

• I'm moving Sadie's song back to where it should be. Not only does it make more sense content wise, but this page isn't even following Ian JQ's intended order list when it says that Alone Together comes before Warp Tour. Zemblant (talk) 02:37, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Cartoon Network's Official episode list doesn't match page

The source listed for the inclusion of "Open Book", "Shirt Club", and "Story for Steven" contradicts the information that is up, the official Cartoon Network page shows a different episode list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geexican (talk • contribs) 00:34, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

That site is wrong. Didn't you notice how they list multiple episodes as "episode 2" and "episode 3"? Those episodes never aired in that order, that's a mistake. nyuszika7h (talk) 09:21, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2016

EDIT disregard seems my request has been posted before 74.221.99.70 (talk) 12:58, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Reference 3 hyperlink broken

Hi, reference number 3 on the page leads to an apparently non-existant tweet. The account exists and the name was not changed as this link works. The tweet may have been deleted. It seems that the account belongs to one of the writers on the show as seen in the 'External Links' section on this page. 220.233.83.75 (talk) 15:20, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 June 2016

Link reference number 3, to https://twitter.com/mcburnett/status/715267280200998912 is no longer working.

200.28.242.70 (talk) 04:04, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Done Marked with {{dead link}}. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:39, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

@JJMC89: Thanks. I checked the WayBack Machine for good measure, but the tweet was not archived. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 04:41, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Plot summary length

WP:TVPLOT says episode plot summaries should be between 100–200 words. This article has very short plot summaries. Please note that there is no need to avoid "spoilers" per WP:SPOILER. – nyuszika7h (talk) 10:07, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Using the promo image as a source

The promo image for Steven's Summer Adventure is being used a source for which episodes are going to air despite the fact that it mentions absolutely no episode names. Zap2it lists Steven Floats, Drop Beat Dad and Mr. Greg at the given air times, and would probably be a better source. TVShowFan122 (talk) 12:11, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 July 2016

Since reference number 88 is a link to the cartoon network canada website you can't say that it is a reference to the us release, thus you must use:

HTahboub (talk) 22:22, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done for now: Nothing in the table specifies that the airdates are for the US specifically. Canada is acceptable. Given the tweet I don't see a need to change the source. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 05:37, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 11 July 2016

Replace TBA in episode 91 to Kiki's Pizza Delivery Service (July 26th) Replace TBA in episode 92 to Monster Reunion (July 27th) Replace TBA in episode 93 to Alone at Sea (July 28th) Replace TBA in episode 94 to Greg the Babysitter (July 29th) Replace TBA in episode 95 to Gem Hunt (August 1st)

Source: http://www.toonzone.net/forums/threads/cartoon-network-july-2016-premiere-info.5550641/ Why this source is valid: The Steven Universe wiki uses it. (http://steven-universe.wikia.com/wiki/Kiki's_Pizza_Delivery_Service#cite_note-0) HTahboub (talk) 19:58, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done for now: Unfortunately, neither of those are considered reliable sources. EvergreenFir (talk) 20:16, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Episode Titles Replacement

Replace TBA in episode 91 to Kiki's Pizza Delivery Service (July 26th) Replace TBA in episode 92 to Monster Reunion (July 27th) Replace TBA in episode 93 to Alone at Sea (July 28th) Replace TBA in episode 94 to Greg the Babysitter (July 29th) Replace TBA in episode 95 to Gem Hunt (August 1st)

Sources:-

   -http://www.idigitaltimes.com/steven-universe-season-3-will-air-almost-entirely-during-summer-steven-starting-july-543914
   -http://www.movienewsguide.com/steven-universe-season-3-episodes-schedule/244358
   -https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Episodios_de_Steven_Universe#Temporada_3:_2016

HTahboub (talk) 20:46, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Done nyuszika7h (talk) 15:49, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Why is Bismuth a two parter?

It was specifically confirmed to be a half hour special, so it shouldn't be Bismuth (part 1) and Bismuth (part 2), it should just be Bismuth. Crossover Enthusiast (talk) 22:19, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 July 2016

Add new Episodes and the airing dates, Source: http://steven-universe.wikia.com/wiki/Summer_of_Steven; http://tv.twcc.com/listings/cartoon-network;

StKrptUsr (talk) 22:30, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Not done: I don't see any episodes listed on twcc.com that aren't already on in the article. Wikia is not considered WP:RS. Nothing to add. EvergreenFir (talk) 23:41, 28 July 2016 (UTC)