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List of Sigma Phi Epsilon chapters

For List of Sigma Phi Epsilon chapters. Found a ref for the chartering dates (month/day/year). https://issuu.com/sigmaphiepsilon/docs/lrob-2015 . The question is should we merge everything into a List of chapters by founding. (The notes are going to get either removed or make into a notes refs and moved below)Naraht (talk) 15:22, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's another of the non-standard, but good-faith lists. Yes, I think you are right: the tables should be merged, listed by founding date, and the notes placed as EFNs. As ΣΦΕ is one of the largest of the GLOs, after the name column -- for clarity -- I'd suggest we split out the abbreviation as an adjacent column (if it fits; it's not as important as the other project-standard columns), and keep the narrow column noting national roll number. They use that number, and it won't hurt to retain it. Of course we should add columns for city and state. Jax MN (talk) 15:46, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OK, so what does a row look like (and I'm quite willing to move this to Talk:List of Sigma Phi Epsilon chapters...

Chapter Roll : 999
Chapter: West Virginia Omega (do we include the (WV Ω), I presume we *are* including the RLC)?
Institution: Southwest West Virginia Institute
City: Mars
State: West Virginia
Status: Inactive
Notes:
Ref: ?

Naraht (talk) 17:17, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'd use this template:

Roll #	Chapter	Abbreviation	Chartered/Range	Institution	City	State	Status	References
137	Virginia Alpha	VA Α	November 1, 1901–1997; 2001	University of Richmond	Richmond	Virginia	Active	^[a]

^ This chapter had its origin in the Saturday Night Club (local), formed earlier in 1901.

The information on this example entry is correct. I do not know why ΣΦΕ numbers its Alpha chapter as merely #137. It likely is the rank in terms of length of active tenure. Assuming that is the case, I am less convinced that roll number is important, at least from Wikipedia's perspective. And for reasons of space, the name abbreviation may not be needed. (Seriously, isn't there a shorter word for the word "abbreviation"?) Sortability is the trigger that makes all this work. Place the chapters in default order by date of original installation. The Fraternity may have an interest in noting age of service: check their national website for an indication of this. If it was just a 'good idea' from an early Wikipedia author, without strong national usage, maybe we should delete this column. Jax MN (talk) 17:47, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is probably a good idea to move this discussion to the Sig Ep talk page. Note, I just added the Baird's Archive to the chapter list page as a reference, and I think we should probably retain the RLCs, within the table as they presently are shown. Jax MN (talk) 17:58, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Abbr. is the Abbreviation for Abbreviation. As far as I can tell, the 137 for the founding chapter was Vandalism it *is* number 1. I'm in favor of keeping it. (Sigma Phi Epsilon *definitely* cares about it, see the reference.)

[1] This chapter had its origin in the Saturday Night Club (local), formed earlier in 1901.

[a]