Talk:List of Principal Chiefs of the Cherokee/Archive 1

Archive 1

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The text of this article is remarkably similar to [1]. Copyright infringement? —Sesel 03:53, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

• The similarities are only remote. Chuck Hamilton (talk) 03:26, 17 February 2009 (UTC)Devin Robinson.

Move and other changes

Because the article has expanded far beyond its original scope, the title "Principal Chief of the Cherokee Nation" was no longer accurate. I removed the seal of the Cherokee Nation for the same reasons. I altered the successions from ascending to descending order to conform to the style of similar articles in Wikipedia regarding lines of succession. Chuck Hamilton (talk) 17:25, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Principal Chief as opposed to "leader"

I moved Dragging Canoe (1777-1792) and John Watts (1792-1794) to the "early leaders" section because the title and office of Principal Chief did not exist before the 1794 formation of the Cherokee Nation. Although he was their decades-long leader, Dragging Canoe was never Principal Chief of the Chickamauga, and John Watts could only have been (presumably called) Principal Chief of the Chickamauga after the title came into existence. Hard to tell since nothing is cited. GenQuest (talk) 04:25, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Since there was no suggestion in that section that either held the title of "Principal Chief", there was no reason to do that. In fact, the first to hold the title was Little Turkey, and then only after the Chickamauga Wars. Btw, neither Doublehead nor The Glass claimed the title either. Chuck Hamilton (talk) 22:21, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Thanks. I was going by the article's sub-titles, and the Chickamauga title and section was equal to all the remaining sections of the different, but equal, bands' Principal Chiefs. That made it unclear to me if they had their own Principal Chiefs or not. I went ahead and sub-ordinted it to the "Early leaders" section for clarity. -RJ Boyce, GenQuest (talk) 23:25, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
    • Good move, mate. There were a couple of occasions where Dragging Canoe openly acknowledged Little Turkey's status--such as the time he appeared before the National Council in Ustanali--but his people operated independently of the rest of the Nation. Chuck Hamilton (talk) 01:27, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Cherokee Nation during the Civil War

By a large majority, the Cherokee Nation voted to support the Confederacy during the Civil War. Principal Chief John Ross and his faction initially supported this direction, if albeit somewhat reluctantly. He abandoned his office, and a large number of his supporters left the Cherokee Nation, he himself taking up residence in Washington City. Stand Watie was then elected Principal Chief by an overwhelming majority of voters, under the provisions of the constitution of the Cherokee Nation. The men who served as "acting principal chiefs" for Ross did not live in the Cherokee Nation, nor did the minority of Cherokee who followed them; most left for Kansas. In fact, they lived in another state entirely. After the war, it should have been no surprise that the United States gave the office back to Ross, doing the same in the Cherokee Nation as in every other territory in the former Confederacy: cleaning out the ranks of their governments of their former antagonists. But no matter what position the USA took, under Cherokee law, Stand Watie was the one and only Principal Chief after being elected in 1862. To claim otherwise is to belittle and trivialize the Cherokee self-government. Chuck Hamilton (talk) 19:31, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Standing Turkey and Stalking Turkey

This page connects Standing Turkey with Kanagatucko, and Stalking Turkey with Cunne Shote, but these are reversed at their individual wiki pages. I don't know how to correct. Hurricane2u (talk) 12:35, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

It is "Cherokee Nation" - NOT "Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma"

As an enrolled member (citizen) of the Cherokee Nation, I am aware that we do NOT call ourselves the "Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma". The official name of our tribe is "Cherokee Nation". While some people may refer to as as the CNOK, we do not. A search of "Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma" on the official Cherokee Nation website of cherokee.org does not reveal a single link to anything using the phrase "Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma". For this reason, even though I am directly involved in the matter, I am going to remove the phrase "Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma" from this article, and replace it with the accurate term "Cherokee Nation".