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Removal of names mentioned in this list very soon

Unless someone can prove if names mentioned in this list qualify on LISTPEOPLE, I'll proceed to remove them within a week. Of course, a few whose notability has already been established on Wikipedia will not be deleted. For the others, please provide at least a BLP1E or a BIO1E validation. Wifione ^Message 16:37, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I started by removing the obvious ones, no time for more now. I believe less than 10 overall in this list qualify. --Muhandes (talk) 22:38, 7 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Muhandes, I agree with most of your removals. However, I believe some of the items removed do satisfy notability criteria: for example, Ramchandra Guha and Pradeep Gupta. Aurorion (talk) 12:11, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, these were removed by mistake, I will restore them. --Muhandes (talk) 07:58, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pending removal of names

Please note. I intend to remove all those names that do not qualify on our notability guidelines. It perhaps makes little sense to keep including each and every vice president, or director or top manager of any organisation who is an IIM Calcutta alumnus. The list is close to being seen as a telephone directory of top managers from IIM Calcutta than notable alumni. If there's any strong reason to the contrary and to not deleting non notable persons, please mention here in a couple of days. Also, kindly read up on REDFLAG to understand that any name supported purely by primary or self published sources will be removed immediately. For example, a company website sources is a primary source. A blog is a primary and self published source. Please provide reliable sources after reading our verifiability policy. Thanks. Wifione ^Message 15:12, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Would be helpful if you could elaborate here on the guidelines of including corporate people on such lists, for this purpose as well as for future reference. The WP notability page is rather vague on the subject (as opposed to, say, actors, for whom criteria are given in greater detail). It's obvious that "each and every vice president, or director or top manager of any organisation" need not be included. But what about CEOs/Managing Directors, CXOs and Chairmen? What about founders of organizations? Does the secondary sources criterion mean that anyone mentioned in a few secondary sources can be included? Aurorion (talk) 15:34, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply Aurorion. I think we can draw a balance. I understand what you're saying. But frankly, I expect that from such a top institution which has existed for ages, there would be quite too many CEOs, MDs etc. So we really need to draw the line so that the individuals mentioned on this page are truly those that are notable. LISTPEOPLE has a good set of points. Tell me what you think. Also, when a company claims on its website that its MD is an IIM Calcutta passout, that doesn't count as a reliable source. Even a person's own blog stating the same is not acceptable. We really need either a source from the IIM Calcutta website or a proper reliable source that qualifies on REDFLAG. So in all I guess we could include people who have been mentioned by at least two reliable sources in detail and not just in passing. Do you think this sounds workable? Do tell. Wifione ^Message 04:52, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply. From what I understood from LISTPEOPLE, each entry in the list need to satisfy two requirements: (a) notability of the person; and (b) membership in the list, which in this case means a source to prove that he/she is an alumnus of this institute. For the second part, you say that a reference on a company website would not be enough but an IIM-C website reference would do - I don't understand why. If IIM Calcutta's website can be taken as a reliable source for this, why not the website of a company? If not smaller companies, what about well known companies like, say, Nokia? For the first part - notability, would a few references from secondary sources (like news articles) do? I just edited the citations for the first entry in the list - "Abhay Pandey", adding one secondary source with him and his company as the subject, and another source saying he is an IIM Calcutta alumnus - do you think they are okay? Aurorion (talk) 12:10, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... doesn't meet CSD criteria --121.241.119.242 (talk) 09:33, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 12 June 2012

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This page contained a larger list of names with multiple references for each name. Several names from this list - including some about notable persons with WP pages - were deleted from this page by a user without any discussion. This edit needs to be reverted and the names added back.

122.177.176.247 (talk) 20:23, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not done See the guidelines Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Lists of people, Wikipedia:Red link, and the essay Wikipedia:Write the article first. Only those both with articles and reliably sourced should be listed, although if someone, for example, became head of state, a position of automatic notability, they could be added before the article. This has been discussed above starting in December 2011, and the repeated re-insertions are why the article is semi-protected to begin with. Dru of Id (talk) 03:15, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Several items satisfying both those criteria - with articles and reliably sourced - were removed from the list. One example: Sabyasachi Hajara

I have restored him as his removal was collateral damage of a mass revert, his article was unlinked until 11 June, but the edit which linked it redlinked another; I will also restore Venkat Viswanathan momentarily - the cited reference is unavailable, but one from his article is. Dru of Id (talk) 06:40, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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