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Trey Parker

Trey Parker should be on the list of non-competitive awards. South Park Emmy, South Park Grammy, Mormon Tony, Student Film Honorary Oscar. Miserlou (talk) 04:44, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Fred Astaire

Why isn't he on the list of three non-competitive awards? His Special Academy Award (1950) (plus one competitive nomination in 1975), 3 competitive Emmy Awards (1958, 1961, 1978, plus competitive nominations in 1960 and 1968), and Grammy for Lifetime Achievement (1989), plus Grammy Hall of Fame for 1952 Astaire Story album (1999), should qualify.

(And, of course, if Tony awards had existed in the 1920s, Fred Astaire would have won several for his 1920s Broadway Musical work... )

Any reason why Fred shouldn't be added to the list? Contributor tom (talk) 03:32, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Dame Julie Andrews

I noticed that on the list of four nominations, it says Dame Judith Anderson followed by Julie Andrews. Julie Andrews is also a dame. Why isn't she listed as Dame Julie Andrews? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.20.243.84 (talk) 23:00, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Naming of awards

Sorry, but is not it really stupid to have Oscar awards in the table named "Academy Award" while Grammy (etc) is not even slightest bit less (this time, musical one) Academic Award?

I would suppose the nonsencical naming should be corrected to something proper. 95.28.113.224 (talk) 16:28, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Al Gore

I'm removing Al Gore from this article, because he does not have an Academy Award. He starred in An Inconvenient Truth, which won an Academy Award, but he himself was not awarded for his performance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.77.78.10 (talk) 07:20, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Someone added Al Gore again, and I am removing him again. The author above correctly notes that Gore has not himself won any Oscars. Oscars for Best Documentary are awarded to the Director. Wikipedia's page about An Inconvenient Truth specifically says that the award was given to the director of that film. Wikipedia's article about the Academy Award for Best Documentary lists the Director of that film as the winner of the Academy Award during the year An Inconvenient Truth is listed as the winner. Al Gore starred in the film but is not creditted on the production or direction team of the film. Until he wins a third award, he should not be listed in the 3 awards section. --Givememoney17 (talk) 19:17, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

He has a Noble Prize. Are there any others with Noble Prizes in the EGOT list? He should try for a Tony. 60.240.207.146 (talk) 05:32, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Dick Van Dyke's Grammy

How and when did Dick Van Dyke win a grammy? Javabeanrush 04:41, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Van Dyke received a Grammy Award for his performance on the soundtrack to Mary Poppins (1964). The 7th Grammy Awards were held in 1965. They recognized accomplishments of musicians for the year 1964. The Best Recording for Children was awarded to Julie Andrews, Dick Van Dyke, Glynis Johns, David Tomlinson, and Ed Wynn for Mary Poppins. (JosephASpadaro 08:37, 21 April 2007 (UTC))

Jonathan (who?) Tunick

Streisand is "on the list" only with an asterisk: She got an honorary Tony Award in 1970, but doesn't have any "real" Tonys. Jonathan Tunick belongs on the list; he has all four awards. -- Nunh-huh 01:11, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Who is Jonathan Tunick? RickK 01:16, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)
He's an orchestrator and composer, mostly associated with Stephen Sondheim, so he picks up the awards for musical orchestration on Bway and movies. Well-known, as orchestrators go <G> ... which is to say, obscure, but an award-winner. He's the one that folk miss out on in trivia if they try to name Emmy/Grammy/Oscar/Tony winners. Nunh-huh 01:23, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Cool. We need an article on him. RickK 01:24, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I'll look to see if I can at least find his birthdate<G>. - Nunh-huh 01:25, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Liza Minnelli

Note for those tempted to add Liza Minnelli: she won Tonys in 1965, 1974, 1978, and an Oscar in 1972. She apparently also won an Emmy (when?), but so far no sign of a Grammy. -- Nunh-huh 03:15, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Liza won an Emmy in 1973 for "Liza With a Z". RickK 03:26, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)
In 1990, Liza received a "Living Legend" Grammy Award. (unsigned)
Yes, their website [1] confirms that she won a "Legend Award" from the Recording Academy Association in 1990, but they characterize this as a "Special Merit Award" and distinguish it from the "Grammy", saying "In addition to the GRAMMY, the Recording Academy also presents special merit awards, including the Lifetime Achievement, Trustees, Legend and Technical awards, as well as the GRAMMY Hall Of Fame honoring historical recordings. More recently, The Latin Recording Academy introduced the Latin GRAMMY and Latin GRAMMY Hall of Fame." So it's not quite a Grammy, but it is probably worth a mention in the article. I'll try and make the "with an asterisk" entries clear. -- Nunh-huh 00:21, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)

It is worth noting that she has just been nominated for the Grammy for Best Traditional Pop Vocal Album for 2010. Should she win this she will have won all four major entertainment awards. --Alextwa (talk) 14:37, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Liza Minnelli did not win the Tony Award in 2009. Only the show "Liza's at The Palace...!", in which she had performed, won the Tony in the category "Best Special Theatrical Event". This category is not according to several performers. Of course, Minnelli was the star of the show, but she did not receive this Tony herself. Just have a look at the Internet Broadway Database. --79.247.162.105 (talk) 17:03, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Rita Moreno

For many years, it has been erroneously reported that Rita Moreno was the first entertainer to win all four major entertainemt awards. Moreno was actually the third person. The first was composer Richard Rodgers (who won his final major award, an Emmy, in 1962). Helen Hayes was the second person winning a Grammy on February 19, 1977 (Note: the 19th Annual Grammy Awards was for the calendar year of 1976). Seven months later, Rita Moreno won an Emmy to complete winning all four major awards on September 11, 1977. Sources: Grammy.org, Emmys.org gmjambear 07:46, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I had also heard for years that Rita Moreno was the first to accomplish this feat. Any idea as to why that misinformation persisted so long? Is there any qualifying criteria that makes her the "first" -- for example, the first female to achieve this feat, or the first actress to achieve this feat? (I assume she is the first Puerto Rican to achieve this feat.) (JosephASpadaro 21:42, 21 April 2007 (UTC))
I think that I finally figured out what is behind the erroneous reports that Rita Moreno was the first to win all four awards. I assume that Moreno is credited as the first actor (or performer) to win all four awards. Rodgers was not an actor or performer ... he was a composer ... and, therefore, a bit more "behind the scenes" and away from the public eye. As far as Hayes, her Grammy was for spoken word (speaking) as opposed to singing. That is, many people might not consider "speaking" to be "performing" per se (possibly?). So, I think that distinction played a big part. As a result, Rita Moreno is indeed the first performer with the so-called "triple threat" of performing (acting / singing / dancing) to win all four of the performance awards. That is my theory as to why her name has persisted as the first. And, it does make sense on several levels. Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 14:28, 13 June 2009 (UTC))
I have been cleaning up this article ... and doing some research on this topic. In doing so, I came to discover that The Guinness Book of World Records actually listed Rita Moreno as holding the record in this category. From what I can gather, she appeared in the 1979 edition of Guinness. Various sources report different wording on her Guinness entry. I have seen that Moreno was "the first" ... "the first and only" ... "the first female" ... "the first actress" ... (etc.) ... to win the four awards. In any event, she was not the first to do so (since Rodgers was) ... nor was she the first female to do so (since Hayes was). But, whatever the case, I am sure that the Guinness "error" (I assume?) has contributed to much of the misinformation out there on this issue. As my post above indicates, I think that Rodgers got lost in the shuffle because he was not a performer in the direct public eye ... and Hayes got lost in the shuffle because her Grammy did not arise from her singing. Also ... back in 1979 ... there was no internet available ... and the vast resources of data and information were not so readily or easily accessible or verified as is the case today. So, that's my theory on how and why this misinformation perpetuated. I'd love to see the actual wording of the "record" that was attributed to Moreno in that 1979 Guinness edition. Perhaps, if it was cleverly worded, it could stand as a correct record. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 23:35, 15 June 2009 (UTC))

For the 3 time winners?

Bette Midler has won everything except for an Oscar, whereas Glenn Close has won everything except for a Grammy.

Dear Unsigned, I see you posted this on March 31, 2007, so I am moving it to the end of the talk page where additions customarily go. You are right about Midler, but Close hasn't won an Oscar yet. Correction noted. Bruxism 16:17, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Actually Midler's Tony was a special, so she doesn't have 3 competitives. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Givememoney17 (talk • contribs) 02:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Name change for this article

I think a better name for this article would be "List of people who have won Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, and Tony Awards" (that is, removing the words "a" and "an" before the names of the awards). First, I think it is more grammatically correct. Second, as it now stands, the title of the article implies that each winner won each award only one time. That is not the case, as several of these winners have won multiple awards in each category. Any thoughts? (JosephASpadaro 16:00, 5 May 2007 (UTC))

I agree with the points you have listed. The changes would make sense, and it hardly changes the important content of the title (as regards to searches). Cybertooth85 05:28, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the input. I will give it a few more days, see if others weigh in, then make the change. Thanks again. (JosephASpadaro 04:39, 8 May 2007 (UTC))
I changed the name of this article on May 28, 2007 for the reasons listed above. Thanks. (JosephASpadaro 20:21, 28 May 2007 (UTC))
It looks like the article was, at some point, changed back to "persons". I believe that it should be "people" instead. 98.164.229.78 (talk) 18:24, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
On the other hand, most of this article is about other stuff now (3/4, 3/4 with specials, 2 for same work, 4 nominations, etc.), so maybe we should change the title all together. After all, most of what's in this article is not a "list of persons who have won all four awards. Is there any reason we can't change to EGOT? Schnapps17 (talk) 05:07, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Slight reformat

I changed the formatting of single awards to have the same indenting as multiple awards. The downside of this is the increased veritcal length of the article, but to my eyes it makes the entries much easier to read. Revert if there is strong disagreement. Manning 02:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Pulitzer Prize

Is there any particular reason why Pulitzers are mentioned in this article? Two of the people happen to have won a Pulitzer, but so what? How is this relevant to people who've won an Oscar, an Emmy, a Tony and a Grammy? Helen Hayes won the inaugural Sarah Siddons Award, so why not mention that? I'm sure Gielgud and Hepburn et al won all sorts of awards throughout their careers, but this article has nothing to do with any awards apart from the 4 the article is about. I'm champing at the bit to remove all reference to Pulitzers, but will wait for feedback. But not long. -- JackofOz (talk) 21:37, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I did not add the Pulitzer Prize information to this article and, therefore, I can only surmise as to why it is here. I surmise that the article originally dealt with the four "big" awards, and it detailed the nine people who have won them. However, if there is any award "bigger" (i.e., more significant, more prestigious, more popular recognition, etc.) than these four "big" awards, then it must be the Pulitzer. (One could also argue for the Nobel Prize, I gather.) So, I believe that as an aside, some editor simply said (in paraphrase), "Wow, not only did Rodgers and Hamlisch win all four of these four big awards, but they also won the bigger Pulitzer Award as well. I think that's important information that is worthy of mention in the article. Let me put it in!" With which I would agree, by the way. Yes, I am certain that all nine of these individuals have won many, many, many awards ... but I personally cannot think of any more prestigious and notable than the Pulitzer (or the Nobel). In fact, if one of these nine individuals has also won the Nobel, I would think it irresponsible to not include such information in the article. It's pertinent and it's relevant. (I would have to do some research on that. But, I am sure that if one of the nine also received a Nobel, it would have been mentioned in here somewhere already. And with good reason.) In essence, this article is detailing those who have won the most coveted awards in entertainment. So, yes, the Pulitzer and the Nobel align as such. One could hardly argue that the Sarah Siddons Award approaches the level of "importance" (if you will) of the Pulitzer and/or the Nobel (where "importance" refers to honor, prestige, significance, recognition, etc.). In a nutshell, no one has ever heard of the Sarah Siddons Award ... and, well, everyone has heard of the Pulitzer and the Nobel. The only thing I might be troubled by is that the Pulitzer is "listed" along with the four major awards --- whereas, more appropriately, it should probably only be mentioned as a footnote or as an aside. In fact, I had debated formatting the Pulitzer Prizes in that very manner, but I never got around to doing so. I can certainly live with reformatting the Pulitzer information. (Which I will actually go ahead and now do.) But, I would most strongly object to its removal in entirety from the article. Your thoughts? Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 22:44, 11 January 2008 (UTC))
I must respectfully disagree. It's true that the winning of a Pulitzer, a Nobel, an Olympic Gold medal, a Congressional Medal of Honour, a Victoria Cross, a Time Person of the Year, or whatever, are entirely relevant to the individuals' own articles. But this article exists solely because these people have won these 4 awards, and whatever else they did in their lives and whatever other awards they might have won are just not relevant to this article. -- JackofOz (talk) 00:21, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
And I also respectfully disagree with your post above. In the context of this article, the Pulitzer information is indeed relevant and appropriate. This article details the four "big" awards in entertainment / show business. If a Pulitzer Prize or a Nobel Prize is likewise awarded in an entertainment category, then it is noteworthy (and relevant to the information contained in this article). To boil it down to its simplest terms, this article is about winning the "biggest" and most coveted awards in entertainment. So, if someone wins an even "bigger" award (e.g., the Pulitzer or the Nobel) ... why would that not be mentioned? I would further argue that winning a Pulitzer or a Nobel in Chemistry or World Peace, say, would be irrelevant to this article (as it has nothing to do with achieving high accolades in entertainment). Similarly, winning, say, a Sarah Siddons Award is not relevant since -- even though it is awarded for work in the entertainment field -- it is not particularly noteworthy, notable, important, or prestigious (relatively speaking ... and for lack of better words). Yes, Olympic Gold Medals are extremely high accolades to win. But they are not awarded for acting / show business / entertainment. If they were, then -- yes -- I would argue that they too would merit mention in this article. But, they are not. Ditto for the other awards you cite ... while they are prestigious, they have nothing to do with acting / show business / entertainment. Certain Pulitzer Prizes and Nobel Prizes do, however. So, what is the harm of their mention in the article? Their existence is a side note, to be sure, ... yet still relevant to winning prominent entertainment awards --- as they themselves are arguably even more prominent entertainment awards! If we follow your proposed logic, the article would merely be a list of nine names --- end of story. That's like saying that we cannot mention in the Academy Award article that George Bernard Shaw won both an Academy and a Nobel in Literature ... because the Academy Award article is about Academy Awards and not about Nobel Prizes in Literature. That argument makes no sense. It is indeed relevant when an Academy Award winner, such as George Bernard Shaw, also wins a Nobel (especially since he is the only person ever to do so in history). How would that not be relevant? And that is, in essence, the same case presented here. In any event, these are my two cents on the issue. Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 00:42, 12 January 2008 (UTC))
OK, your arguments make a certain sense, and I can live with the Pulitzers becoming notes rather than main entries. Thanks for the change. -- JackofOz (talk) 09:05, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
No problem. I am glad that we can agree on this. And I do completely agree that the Pulitzer information, while relevent and interesting, is merely a side not that is secondary and peripheral to the main four awards of the article. I have made the appropriate changes to the article to reflect this. Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:06, 27 January 2008 (UTC))

John Kander

Hey there, I believe that John Kander should qualify for having won all four, seeing as how he composed the music for Chicago (musical) which won the academy award for best picture. Thoughts? Hockeyplyr042 (talk) 00:11, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

He never won an Academy Award, although he was nominated for two (including Best Music for Chicago). Indeed, Chicago won Best Picture. But many, many, many individuals collaborated on that film ... Kander and many others. But that in no way "qualifies" them for this list, much less qualifies them as winning an Academy Award. In fact, quite the opposite. Kander was nominated -- but lost -- for his work on the music in Chicago. There is no valid argument that Kander "won all four" ... and there is no valid reason to add him to the list. Did he win the other three awards, however? If so, he can rightfully be added to the bottom sections of the page. He may be there, I did not check. Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 06:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC))
He is indeed there, in the emmy, grammy, tony category. I think It would be appropriate/reasonable to add Fred Ebb (not listed) to that category, as they were partners and never won an award for anything they didn't collaborate on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hockeyplyr042 (talk • contribs) 04:26, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Anyone ever thought of adding Golden Globes?

anyone? IAmTheCoinMan (talk) 05:07, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Why? It's not considered one of the four highest awards in entertainment ... which is what this article is all about. Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 06:49, 26 January 2009 (UTC))

Re: I think it would be a good idea to add that --Alextwa (talk) 14:38, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

I certainly think Golden Globes are worth mentioning under each persons' name as a footnote, but does it really deserve it's own section?, and even if it does deserve it's own section, I think it is way to high up on the page (right now it's before the four awards section, even though the four awards section is what this page is primarily about).Givememoney17 (talk) 19:58, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Emmy Awards

Why is it that, to officially qualify, one needs to have a Primetime Emmy? Daytime/International Emmy are still Emmys. They aren't honorable mentions. Latin Grammys are Grammys. They are the same award and Daytime is especially. It's Primetime but for daylight hours. I don't get why there has to be a different section. It's not as though there is an international list and Wikipedia is following it. This is a made up page and we make the rules. It would be similar to saying a Golden globe for a comedic television role qualifies but a Globe for a dramatic movie role doesn't.

Hey, that's a good question ... and a valid one. I don't have any "official" answer, but this is what I think. The Primetime Emmy Awards are the "traditional" ones ... and they originate back to 1949. The other Emmy Awards (Daytime, International, etc.) came about as "add-ons" much, much later on (in 1975 or so). Thus, for a number of reasons, these "add-on" awards that came later on did not exactly carry the same "clout" (if you will) of the original, traditional Primetime Emmy Awards. These reasons? Tradition and history, for one. Also, I assume that primetime TV is more of a "heavy hitter" (more ratings, more audience / viewers, more advertising money, more profit, more respect, more "at stake", etc.) than daytime TV. In fact, that's why it is called "prime" ... right? "Prime" meaning primo, first, number one, the best. So, rightly or wrongly, I imagine that the "other" Emmy Awards simply do not command the same respect / prestige / interest as the traditional Primetime Emmy Awards do. That is my guess. Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 15:17, 13 June 2009 (UTC))
Also ... everything that I said in my above post probably also applies to your other example of "regular" Grammy Awards versus Latin Grammy Awards. Finally ... your analogy about Golden Globes is an invalid one. Your example (comedic performance versus dramatic performance) is a distinction within the same award. That is, they are two different "categories" within the same exact award. That is not a valid comparison or analogy to make. The Primetime Emmy is a different award altogether than the Daytime Emmy. The Latin Grammy is a different award altogether than the regular Grammy. They are not "categories" within the same exact award. Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 15:24, 13 June 2009 (UTC))

Re: I agree. There are various Emmy Awards. The Primetime emmy Award is the big honor for TV. The Daytime & International Emmy are not the same thing. I remember once before on this page that Whoopi Goldberg was not included on the list of people who have won the four major entertainment awards, but was listed separately. As for the Latin Grammys, it is true that they are different from the Grammys. I found myself before correcting various pages that said an artists Latin Grammy win counted towards their Grammy count. Awards may be given out by the same or various institutions that are related but awards do tend to be distinct. --Alextwa (talk) 14:44, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Andrew Lloyd Webber

I have decided to remove Andrew Lloyd Webber's name from the list of people who won all four awards. I will, however, keep his name on the list of people who have won three. Lloyd Webber has indeed won the Academy, Grammy, and Tony Awards ... but no Emmy. Several sources (including Wikipedia) erroneously report that he has won two International Emmy Awards. The following links to a good Los Angeles Times article on this very topic: No, Andrew Lloyd Webber is not a grand-slam winnah. The gist of the article is summarized here. This very question was asked of the folks "in charge" of the International Emmy Awards ... and their public relations representative answered the question to clarify Lloyd Webber's status. This is a direct line taken from the article at that link. PR chief Jennifer Langusch replied, "In 2001 Jesus Christ Superstar won but Andrew Lloyd Webber was not listed as a producer and then in 2007 How Do You Solve a Problem Like Maria? won in non-scripted entertainment but he was listed as cast. He personally hasn't won any International Emmys." That seems to come straight from the horse's mouth, I'd say. If the Emmy Award head of PR is confirming that Lloyd Webber has no Emmy Awards, it would seem to me that he has no Emmy Awards. Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 01:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC))

Good call. Manning (talk) 00:42, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Sid Ramin

Sid Ramin won Competitive Academy Award, a Competitive Daytime Emmy Award, and a Competitive Grammy Award. As such he should be bumped to the list of people who have won a Oscar-Emmy-Grammy. True the Emmy he won is a Daytime Emmy Award. However Whoopi Goldberg's Emmy is a Daytime Emmy Award. And she has been bumped up to the ten people won won all four awards. So if a Daytime Emmy is good enough recognition for Whoopi, the same rules should apply to Sid Ramin. Someone please make the change. Thanks - T —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.70.92.160 (talk) 01:59, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm... you have a good case here. Sid Ramin is *clearly* a noteworthy individual based on the little I could find about him. Sadly what I found was VERY little. The fact he does not have a Wikipedia article is a much bigger problem than his absence from this list.Manning (talk) 00:40, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Update - I've modified the list in accordance with your observation. The alternative is to remove Goldberg from the main list (which is still an option, depending on consensus). Manning (talk) 02:13, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
I agree that the bigger issue was that Sid Ramin had no article. So, I just started one. It's not the greatest ... but it's a start, nonetheless. And it removes the "red link" from his name, as well. Also ... please see the new topic that I started below, in response to your other issue about Goldberg, etc. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:00, 23 June 2009 (UTC))

Whoopi Goldberg

This is in response to two different threads above ... the one entitled "Sid Ramin" (immediately above) and the one entitled "Emmy Awards" (two or three topics up). What is the consensus on how we should handle the "issues" of Whoopi Goldberg, Daytime Emmy Awards, etc.? One the one hand, a Daytime Emmy is indeed a competitive award ... on the other hand, it's not quite a Primetime Emmy. I think it's definitely considered "second rate" or a tier below. Does anyone have any input on this? I have seen various sources handle this several different ways. A lot include Whoopi. A lot don't. And a lot include her with the asterisk notation that hers is "only" a Daytime Emmy. Are there any "definitive" sources out there that indicate that the "Grand Slam" of show business / entertainment awards is indeed the Academy, the Primetime Emmy, the Grammy, and the Tony? The "Grand Slam" is an "unofficial" recognition ... but we should all agree -- one way or the other -- for consistency in the article. Any thoughts on this issue? Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:12, 23 June 2009 (UTC))

I used to think we should put Whoopi as an asterisk. She definetly is more qualified than Streisand or Minelli, since she competed for her Emmy award in a category with other nominees, whereas Barbra and Liza got honoraries. So I think she's above them, because the Daytime Emmys are competitive, but are distinct from Primetime Emmys, they are presented at different award ceremonies. On the other hand, this article is a "List of persons who have won Academy, Emmy, Grammy, and Tony Awards" not list of people who have won Academy, Primetime Emmy, Grammy, and Tony awards, so a Daytime Emmy qualifies because it is indeed an Emmy which has been won (honorary awards are still different because they are presented or received rather than won).Givememoney17 (talk) 01:59, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

There are references in the article. The Grammy was for Comedy Album and the Tony was for producing Thoroughly Modern Millie. Givememoney17 (talk) 01:59, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Quincy Jones

Quincy Jones has won Grammys and one Emmy (for music score for Roots miniseries). He has also won the Hersholt Humanitarian award at the Oscars. Does that count or qualify him for the Emmy, Grammy and Oscar category? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaneshirojj (talk • contribs) 06:47, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Quincy Jones should be bumped down to the list of people winning Three Awards, 2 competitive and one Honorary win, as the Oscar he won was not competitive. If we included every honorary win, this list would be much bigger. Someone please make the change, as someone else has bumped Quincy Jones as winning 3 out of the 4 awards competitively.
Done Givememoney17 (talk) 21:57, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Barry Manilow

Barry is in both the three competive wins & the three including-honorary wins!? Dyaimz (talk) 01:26, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Good catch! He doesn't have 3 competitives so I am taking him off that list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Givememoney17 (talk • contribs) 02:02, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Superlatives Section

After a paragraph which states that Barbara Streisand and Liza Minelli were not to be included in the superlatives, Streisand is listed as the holder of several of the superlatives. Shouldn't this be redone to remove her?LightningMan (talk) 17:10, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Andrew Lloyd Weber's Two International Emmy Awards

Hey TLORK, why'd you revert the note that Andrew Lloyd Weber has won Two International Emmy Awards? 69.116.242.206 (talk) 06:09, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

EGOT

On 30 Rock, Tracy Jordan has tried to achieve receiving all these awards and bought a chain that says "EGOT". Maybe Egot should redirect here or be mentioned at least in a cultural references. Dflav1138 (talk) 22:03, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

People who have been nominated for all four?

Should there maybe be a section about people who have been nominated for all four awards (more or less a list of people who could have won all four awards)? Along those lines, what about a section about people who have been nominated in more than one of these four awards in the same year? I'm new to Wikipedia editing so I don't know if that is appropriate or not, but it seems to me like those might be sections deserving of a place on this page. Thoughts?(talk) 00:37, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Bruce Springsteen

Bruce Springsteen has not won any Emmy awards. The misconception might be because his wikipedia page notes that one of his DVDs won 2 technical Emmys, however their exists no technical Emmy which is awarded to performers in a DVD, so these Emmys would not have been won by Springsteen. COuld not find an Emmy award elsewhere online. If someone can find one. please cite it and re add his name to the 3 winner list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Givememoney17 (talk • contribs) 23:39, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Incorrect Listings

There have been many people listed on ths article incorrectly (Al Gore, Bruce Springsteen, Carly Simon among others). Obviously we don't want every name to have three or four sources next to it, so I am proposing a new system to avoid adding incorrect entries to this list:

  1. Change the wikipedia article of the person you are adding to reflect the fact that they have received the awards or nominations in question, with sources! This will make it easier for people editing this page to verify that the information here is correct, without having three or four sources per person.
  2. Make sure you are adding the person to the correct section. Remember that any award that is received or presented rather than won among a field of nominees is considered a non-competitive award. These generally include lifetime achievement awards, hall of fame awards, legend awards, humanitarian awards, etc.
  3. Make sure that for every award you think a person has won, they were the recipient of that award. For example the Grammy for Song of the year is awarded to the writers of a song (not the singers), same thing for the Oscar for best original song (that one is split between the writers and composers).

Givememoney17 (talk) 17:21, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Did Phillip Michael Thomas really invent the term?

I'm pretty sure that was a joke from the 30 Rock episode... --Jfruh (talk) 22:50, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah he did, it's a quote. I think it's cited somewhere but if it isn't it should be. Schnapps17 (talk) 02:40, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, that's convincing. john k (talk) 22:44, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Haha, well I just checked, it is cited in the articleSchnapps17 (talk) 23:25, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, saw that after I posted. The source isn't the best, but it was written before the 30 Rock episode. So I guess it must be true. john k (talk) 01:51, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Woody Allen

I'm removing Woody Allen's listing as a Grammy award winner, as his own wiki-page (including the sub-page listing all the awards he has won) plus a google search don't provide a source for him doing so. He's probably been mistaken for Allen Woody who won a Grammy in 1995 as part of the Allman Brothers Band. 77.168.221.221 (talk) 16:53, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Elton John

According to Elton John's page, he has also won all four awards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.86.2.21 (talk) 22:38, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

He has not won the Emmy, I just checked and I saw no reference to it on his page. The Emmy website has a search you can do to search winners and nominees, and he's never even been nominated.Schnapps17 (talk) 04:17, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Tony clarification

A lot of awards on this page may need to be edited because of some confusion about the Tony Awards. Wikipedia's page about the Tony Award for Best Musical lists the lyricits, writers (plot not lyrics), and composers next to the winners and nominees. However it is actually the Producers who are pressented with this award. Because of wikipedia's weird article about this award, many composers, lyricists, and writers have been listed as winning Best Musical, and while this disqualifies no current EGOTers, it may disqualify some of the 3GOTers and some of the EGOT nominees. And it may reduce Richard Rodgers wins, but it's unclear if he ever produced any of the musicals he composed.Schnapps17 (talk) 05:02, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Rodger's did indeed produce South Pacific and Sound of Music, still not sure about King & I though.Schnapps17 (talk) 20:30, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Hamlisch: First?

The article states: "[Hamlisch] is the first Jewish winner...". Yet Richard Rodgers's article states he was "[b]orn into a prosperous Jewish family ...". Neither sentence is cited. 71.234.215.133 (talk) 18:05, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Unearned Awards

The article has sections on Liza Minnelli and Barbara Streisand, listed all there awards, but doesn't really say anything about the nature of their unearned award - what they were called, why they got them, were they one offs, etc. Regular awards are fairly self explanatory, 'special' awards need an explanation. - 121.208.93.203 (talk) 10:01, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

The awards are not "unearned". The title of this article is "List of persons who have won Academy, Emmy, Grammy, and Tony Awards. To win an award, a person must be nominated along with several other candidates and then win the award. However, all four awards have several categories in which recipients are selected ahead of time and do not compete among a group of nominees. These are then presented to recipients (rather than won by nominees) at the actually ceremony. These are usually Hall of Fame Awards, Lifetime Achievement Awards, Humanitarian Awards and the like. The Tony Awards actually has an award called the Special Tony Award. Both Streaisand and Minnelli have been presented with an award which they have not won in any other category, thought they certainly earned them (for Minnelli its a Grammy and for Streisand its a Tony). Since they have not won all four awards, they are listed below in a special category, since they were presented with the awards (a step up from those who have won three and not been preseted with the fourth). Hope this clears things up for you. I think the article does make a distinction, do you have any suggestions of a better way to explain itSchnapps17 (talk) 05:36, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
The article uses the terminology non-competitive, because recipients do not compete with other nominees for the award.Schnapps17 (talk) 05:38, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

2011 Award Season, Part 1

Comming up on the fisrt half of the awards (Oscar & Grammy presented at the beginning of the year, Tony and Emmypresented midyear). Only 1 person with 3 awards has a shot this season, although I haven't bothered to see if any people with two might get a third or if anyone has been nominated for the same work this year. Anyway, the name to watch for when the oscar nominations are announced is Marc Shaiman. He wrote music for Flipped, so watch to see if he is nominated for Best Original song. The film itself has recieved good reviews among critics, but not so much wide popularity. His songwriting didn't get nominated at the golden globes, but that doesn't mean it won't at the oscars. I should also mention that there is one other person who's an oscar short of an egot who has done filmwork this year, but I think it is highly unlikely that Cynthia Nixon is going to win an oscar for Sex and the City 2, if she were even nominated it would shock me. On the other, if she somehow did this, it would make her the first person to win an Oscar and an Emmy for the same role. The only person who might have done anything at the Grammys was Liza Minnelli, who is a partial EGOTer because her Grammy was non-competitive. She released an album this year, but it didn't get nominated. So look for Marc Shaiman in the Oscar nominations. Schnapps17 (talk) 05:04, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Update. Emma Thompson already has 2 Oscars for Howards End and Sense & Sensibility, as well as an Emmy for a guest spot on Ellen (the sitcom not the talk show). She has been nominated for Spoken Word for Nanny McPhee at the Grammys, so she could join the list of people with the EGO awards.Carol Burnette, who has about a million Emmys as well as an Honorary Tony has also been nominated for a Grammy, so she would join the list with Judy Garland, Bette Midler, Walt Disney, and Irving Berlin. Schnapps17 (talk) 17:36, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Bigger news!!! Sigourney Weaver had a Tony nomination for Hurlyburly back in 1985, two Emmy nominations (in 2009 and 1998), and three nominations for Oscars (Aliens, Gorillas in the Mist, and Working Girl). This year, she has been nominated for Spoken Word as a performer on a Jon Stewart album. Since she has never won any of these awards, she is the first person ever to be nominated for all four awards without ever winning any of them.Schnapps17 (talk) 18:35, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Now that the Grammys are over and the Oscar nominations have been announced, here's a quick update. Emma Thompson and Carol Burnette lost their cateories. Sigourney Weaver won her's so she's now 1/4 instead of 0/4. Marc Shaiman didn't get nominated, so no one will be EGOTing at this years Oscars. As far as i can tell, no one is going to 3GOT. If Randy Newman win's, he'll be added to the 2 awards for the same work section.Schnapps17 (talk) 23:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Other Awards

There has been some debate over what other awards merit mention on this page, most notably the Pullitzer Prize and the Golden Globes. I think some kind of a consensus needs to be reached on these awards. I'll briefly share some basic thoughts:

  • All awards other than the four should be notes, not their own sections. I don't think all mention of them should be precluded, sure the title doesn't mention them, but there are other things not strictly germane to the title, like the two awards for same work section.
  • Golden Globes - No. In addition to the fact that they overlap with both the Emmys and the Oscars, the Golden Globes are very different from the other awards in several ways. First and foremost, the other four award shows are all voted on by people involved in the field (many of the voters are past nominees), whereas the Golden Globes are held by a small group of writers. In addition to this making it diffferent, it also makes the Golden Globes susceptible to bribery, most notably in hte case of Pia Zadora, but this year Burlesque has also been involved in a sort of Golden Globe scandal. The Golden Globes are also notorious for choosing nominees to try to get celebrities to attend, suchas giving nominations to a thriller (The Tourist) in Musical or Comedy categories. Basically, Golden Globes are NOT considered as prestigous as the Oscars or Emmys for a reason, and most people in the field care more about the guild awards anyway. I see absolutely no reason to include these.
  • Pullitzer Prize - Yes. While it is kind of different, I think that because its an award in a different area of entertainement, its worth mentioning.
  • Nobel Prize - Yes. For entertainers, it would almost certainly be in the Peace or Literature categories, though this does't apply to any o the current EGOTers. It's probably the highest honor in hte world, so yeah, include it.
  • Presidential Medal of Freedom. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!! This award is restricted by nationality, something that NONE of the EGOT award are. I STRONGLY disagree with including this, even as notes.
  • Other - Strongly disagree with any suggestion to add other music award ceremonies (like the WMAs, VMAs, AMAs, or CMAs), guild awards (like the SAGs), or BAFTAs. I would support adding Laurence Olivier awards, as their basically the Tony's for West End (in fact, I personally would argue that they are as prestigous as Tonys).

what do YOU think? Schnapps17 (talk) 22:37, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Grey Lines

Hey, I undid your revision to the EGOT page, but my browser had a fluke and the changes were saved before I was finished typing the stuff in the edit summary thing, so I just wanted to explain why I undid your revision. Basically the grey lines are there to divide between different sections of winner. The top charts have it to separate Barbara Streisand and Liza Minnelli from the other 10 because those two have not won all of the awards in competitive categories. The bottom table uses a similar format. Schnapps17 (talk) 03:49, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

OK, I see. However, wouldn't they be better in either a separate table, or in a table the was not sortable. When sorting takes place the grey lines move and never recover. Also, sorting doesn't even seem to work for some of the right-hand columns. Mannafredo (talk) 13:21, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
It's true that the grey lines don't go back to their original places unless you refresh the page, but I don't think seperate tables is necessarily the way to go, because then you can't sort by all names. I don't think that the grey lines bunching up when you sort is that much of a problem, and besides on the summary table, when you sort the grey lines actually seperate the numbers (those with awards) from letters and dashes (those with no awards, and those who only have nominations). For the summary table, you sometimes have to click it three or four times because it contains both numbers and letters, so sometimes it will try to sort alphabetically (ie 1, 11, 17, 2, 23, 25, 261, 3, 39, 300 rather than 1,2,3,11,17,23,25,39,261,300) before doing it numerically. The top table sorts it by the years not te award names, which caused me some confusion the first time I saw it too. It's also possible that all of the tables fall under the category of WP:INDISCRIMINATE anyway. Also, I renamed the discussion for the talk pae with a more approppriate title. Schnapps17 (talk) 03:35, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Please Stop Adding Tracy Jordan

I realize that Tracy Jordan has won an EGOT on the show 30 ROck, but the title of this article is "List of people who have won Academy, Emmy, Grammy, and Tony Awards" not "List of people and fictional characters who have won Academy, Emmy, Grammy, and Tony Awards" . The notes at the bottom are sufficient recognition of Tracy Jordan's fictitious EGOT. Schnapps17 (talk) 05:24, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Choosing a name.

Does anyone else think that we need to pick a name for this. The prose of the article gets very clumsy, because editors who don't want to use either of the two terms (EGOT or Grand Slam Winner) exclusively, end up using both, and it sounds quite clumsy. Also, in many spots, the article says stuff like won all four awards. A large part of this stems from the title, because including the names of all four awards in a row everytime in the article looks to cluttered.

So I think one name needs to be decided on. That GATE reference should probably be deleted since it's just a blog page. I know that Tom O'Niel, who is considered a big awards expert, uses Grand Slam, but personally I feel like EGOT is the way to go. Ever since 30 Rock, I feel like it's the one more people know about, when it gets used at all. More people use it, Whoopi Goldberg herself has used it several times (both scripted on 30 Rock and "live" on The View. ) Anyone else think we need to limit it to one name? I'm not saying there can't be some mention that it also goes by these other names sometimes, but I think the prose of the article should be limited to one. Do you agree, and if you do, which one do you think should be used?

  • Grand Slam
  • Showbiz Grand Slam
  • GATE
  • EGOT
  • Something more general like "the 4 awards?"

Schnapps17 (talk) 01:50, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

2011 awards season part 2

The Emmy nominations are comming in a little over a month (although the eligability period is over) and the Tony Awards are in about a week so here are some updates (also the daytime emmy nominations are announced in about a week). Basically, no one is going to be added to the lists based on the Tonys. Mostly its Emmy winners (including Edie Falco and the South Park guys) going for 2. Frances McDormand (Oscar winner, and past nominee for the Tonys and the Emmys) will also be going for 2. None of the nominations puts anyone at 4/4 on nominations. As far as the daytime emmys, I don't see much happening, except that Whoopi may get another Emmy that does her no good if The View wins for best talk show hosts again. For the regular Emmys, none of the people missing it for the 4th win are elligible, so until the nominations get announced, it is hard to say what will happen. The only current thing is that predictions of an Emmy for Kate Winslet (which eould put her one Tony away from an EGOT) have begunSchnapps17 (talk) 23:18, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Well, the Daytime's are over and no big news there. The Primetime nominees were announced. Winslet got her much anticipated nomination for Mildred Pierce, so she's now 1 Tony nomination away from being an EGOT nominee. If she wins she'll be a 3GOTer (EGO). There are a lot of people who are going for 2/4 (mostly Tony and Oscar winners). There are also a few people who got there second or third nomination but no one who got a fourth. Maggie Smith's emmy count might have to get bumped up one if she wins, but that's all I could find as far as what might need to be changed.Schnapps17 (talk) 17:07, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Primetime Emmys have come and gone. Kate Winslet and Martin Scorsese have joined the list of 3GOTers. Justi. Timberlake upped his Emmy count, and Gwyneth Paltrow got her first Emmy which puts he at 2/4. Also Maggie Smith upped her Emmy count.Schnapps17 (talk) 22:37, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Frank Sinatra not a 3GOTer

Since thi is now the second time he has been added to the list i thoguht i'd mention it here. He has won an Academy award, several grammys, been nominated for a few emmys, and never been nominate for a tony. Since none of his grammys were for the same work as the oscar, he does not qualify for any part ofthis article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Schnapps17 (talk • contribs) 04:42, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Huh, where's the rule that they need to be for the same work (or not for the same work)? I was under the impression that they need only be at least 1 of each and genuine 'competitive' awards rather than 'special' awards. Am I missing something? 60.240.207.146 (talk) 05:39, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

They don't have to be for the same work if they have three awards or four nominations. But an artist with only two of the awards, such as Sinatra, can qualify for the list of people with two awards for the same work if their awards are for the same work. In general, this occurs in one of two ways. The most common way is for someone to write music that is featured in a film, stage musical, or TV show; and win the respective award for that (either an Oscar, Emmy, or Tony) and also win a Grammy award. The other is for someone to win two awards for the same role, by playing them on stage and then reprising this role for a movie, tv movie, miniseries, or teleplay. In theory, this could also be done with an Emmy winning character wo gets a movie, or a movie that proves popular enought to start a tv show, but so far no one has won an Emmy and an Oscar for the same role. hope that clears things up for you.Schnapps17 (talk) 16:13, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

James Earl Jones to be added soon

The Academy just announced that James Earl Jones (along with Dick Smith and Oprah) will receive Honorary Oscars this coming awards season. JEJ will now be an EGOT winner, but in the same vein as Babs and Liza. Just a heads up. =) HansTAR (talk) 14:11, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

The article needs to be revised to remove Jones from the lede, which asserts wins in "competitive categories" - Jones' award is an honorary one and according to the LA Times excludes him from EGOT consideration - (Why James Earl Jones' honorary Oscar doesn't get him an EGOT). I won't revise it because my edits tend to disrupt charts, but this applies to several others on the list as well. Sensei48 (talk) 23:08, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Liza Minnelli

... is in both the list of people to win four and people only to have been nominated in all four? S.G.(GH) ping! 12:56, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Oprah

Should Oprah be on the just short of... list? Competetive nominations for The Color Purple (Tony and Oscar) and a win for Tuesdays with Morrie (Primetime Emmy) and several wins for The Oprah Winfrey Show (Daytime Emmy). Now she's being given the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award from the Oscars. I'm not sure is she's garnered any Grammy nominations but does she meet the page's criteria? Therequiembellishere (talk) 18:44, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

No. I have looked into Oprah before as a candidate, but she does not qualify. Only artists with 3/4 wins or 4/4 nominations qualify. Oprah is 2/4 on wins (Emmy & Oscar) and 3/4 on nominations (no Grammy nominations, I've checked). To qualify, she needs to either win a Tony or be nominated for a Grammy.Schnapps17 (talk) 00:59, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Nov. 2011 Tags

I tagged this article with multiple issues, as it is in need of a lot of work. Cleanup (reorganize): The article layout is confusing. The "Four Awards" section comes before a (seemingly unnecessary) section with lists of awards won by each person, before continuing with other lists later. Section titles are of mixed quality (e.g. "Grand Slam winners" vs "Four Awards") and the section order is not intuitive. Overly detailed: The information in this "Grand Slam winners" section is not relevant to this article; only relevant to the specific articles for those people. Some sections have information above and beyond the lists; according to WP:L lists should generally just have a lead section and the list themselves, not some sort of hybrid between list and article as we have here. Some lists included should be reconsidered, namely the "Two Awards for the same work" list. The "Summary" section should be completely unnecessary if the article is properly trimmed but is currently necessary as the list is simply too detailed. Trivia: The Superlatives section in particular reads like trivia. But there are other cases throughout the article of information not specifically relevant to a list being added. -DMurphy (talk) 18:03, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

I've got to agree. This article appears to have been worked on by someone with a LOT of enthusiasm, which is to be applauded. Unfortunately the article has thus become a bit of a mess.
  • Sections 2 and 3 - I'm actually struggling to see why sections 2 and 3 even exist, they are simply re-stating what was already laid out in section 1, but with a level of detail that can be better accessed by looking at the relevant artist article.
  • Section 7 - I can't see how this is even relevant to the article.
  • Section 9 - Again, I can't see how this is even relevant to the article.
  • Section 10 - someone clearly put a lot of work into this, but again, I just don't see the value. It's incredibly detailed, is far more focused on nominations rather than wins (which isn't the topic).
I'll hold back from action until we get some more input however. Manning (talk) 23:19, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Sections cut

I cut an entire section discussing artists who had received two awards for the same work/role. While it is interesting, it is not relevant to this article. Here's the diff, maybe someone can find somewhere else useful for it. Manning (talk) 01:02, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

I also cut this entire section. While I feel bad because someone put a LOT of work into it, it is only tenuously related to the article. As with the previous, maybe it can be salvaged and used somewhere else. Manning (talk) 01:06, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Qualifying awards summary

I haven't cut this, but I'm still really struggling to see why it is here. It's incredibly detailed, and duplicates what is already presented in each of the relevant artist articles. Thoughts anyone? Manning (talk) 01:53, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Joel Grey has now been nomiated for all four EGOT awards.

After winning an Oscar, and a Tony, with one Emmy nomination (for Guest Actor in a Drama Series), Joel Grey also has a Grammy nomination (http://www.grammy.com/nominees?year=2011&genre=19), this year for Best Musical Theatre Album. Therefore, he should be added to the list of four competitive award nominees. Unlike in previous years, they are giving out Grammys to the main singers on a musical theatre album, not just the composers (of an original production) and the album's producer(s). Check the Grammy nominees page for this year's awards under said category. Concidentially, he lost this Grammy to "The Book of Morman" Original Cast Alubm, and that Grammy win earned Scott Rubin his final piece of the EGOT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.62.144.167 (talk) 16:40, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Added. Manning (talk) 00:15, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Anne Garefino

I was a bit suspicious of the name Anne Garefino being on the "won three awards" list, but I dug around and it's true. Emmy, Tony, Grammy. So I guess she really needs an article of her own, as that pretty much makes her notable. Manning (talk) 04:39, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Done. Manning (talk) 01:12, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Eminem has NOT won an Emmy

Someone keeps updating this page to claim that Eminem is on the "3 winners" list. He is not.

A 'Creative Arts' Emmy was awarded to the Wieden & Kennedy Agency for a 2011 television ad that used Eminem's music - see Page 20 of the official winner's list. Eminem was NOT a recipient of the award. Manning (talk) 01:22, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Irons and Redgrave Grammy nominations

Will the people that keep removing Jeremy Irons and Vanessa Redgrave from the list of people please stop. If you check pretty much any site (including this one) that has Grammy nominations listed for the years 1985 and 2002 you will see that that have been nominated. In 85 Irons was nominated along side Glenn Close (who IMHO should be an EGOT winner) for the Real Thing in the category of best spoken word album. In 02 Redgrave (Vanessa not Lynn) was nominated alongside Stephen Fry for Oscar Wilde: The Selfish Giant and the Nightingale and the Rose. Please do not remove these great artist names from the list they disserve to be there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.230.34.106 (talk) 14:13, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

I attempted to do so and have been unable to find evidence, hence I requested refs. If it is listed on Wikipedia, please tell me where.
Just so you know, I'm not trying to be difficult, only accurate. Also it is policy here that if someone asks for a ref, you MUST give it. That's not negotiable, and no-one is excused. I'm an admin who's been here ten years, but if a first-timer asks me for a ref, I still have to provide it, else that beginner is perfectly entitled to remove my addition. Manning (talk) 06:35, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

You are just being precise and I appreciate that you would be surprised how many people just ban those who disagree with there option even when they have facts that contradict them like the following links for Irons[[2]] [[3]] and for Redgrave [[4]] [[5]].

Some pages that mention Irons nomination are on this wiki are Grammy Award for Best Spoken Word Album and Glenn Close for Redgrave see 49th Grammy Awards nominees and winners and Grammy Award for Best Spoken Word Album for Children I am sure there are several others sources for these — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.230.34.106 (talk) 20:06, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Corporate honorary awards

Has anyone tracked honorary awards given to organizations?

So far as I know, there are no corporate EGOTs, but Apple Inc. is an EGO at present. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nsayer (talk • contribs) 19:43, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Kristin Chenoweth has never won a Grammy Award

So why is she listed as 'Missing Academy Award'? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.64.64.238 (talk) 01:11, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Is Whoopi Goldberg's Tony competitive ?

Barbra Streisand isnt a tier 1 EGOT winner because her 1970Tony is non-competive.
So how is Whoopi Goldberg tier 1? Her Tony is for production(which means she put up $ to fund the play). She didnt act in Thoroughly Modern Millie nor do the music/score. She isnt listed hereTony_Award_for_Best_Musical#2000s, Richard Morris/Dick Scanlan/Jeanine Tesori are. Could someone explain? What is a competive cateogory vs non comp ? 71.191.244.33 (talk) 20:49, 14 March 2013 (UTC) Competitive means that the award was won among a field of nominees. Non-competitive means the award was presented to previously announced recipients, rather than a winner who wasn't announced until the awards ceremony. Generally these include lifetime achievement awards, humanitarian awards, honorary awards, and the like. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.227.247.16 (talk) 19:31, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Lily Tomlin

Tony in 1986, Grammy in 1972, Emmy's in 74 76 78 and 81. Why isn't Lily Tomlin on the 3 time winners list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.253.126.3 (talk) 19:48, 28 March 2013 (UTC)


EGOT is an awful name based on a TV show. TEGO is so much better. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.13.93.76 (talk) 05:23, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Eminem has not won an Emmy

Eminem has not won an Emmy. The ad agency and production company that made the commercial received the award. Not Eminem, not even Chrysler. Trivialist (talk) 16:23, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Julie Andrews EGOT

In 2011 Julie Andrews won a Grammy Award for "Grammy Award for Best Spoken Word Album for Children" with her daughter. This award has been awarded regularly since 1994. As such she has now qualified to be considered as a person who has won all 4 major awards (EGOT). Corrections should be made to include her in the list with the other 11 winners of all four awards.

List of Honours: Julie Andrews — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.70.116.30 (talk) 19:22, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

She has not won a Tony, according to tonyawards.com. Trivialist (talk) 21:57, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

PEGOT

Two people on this list have also won the Pulitzer Prize. The web, and PBS (in their notes on their show on Marvin Hamlisch being shown this evening) calls them PEGOTs. Worth noting? Bill Jefferys (talk) 00:25, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Here's one of the citations to PEGOT on the web. See second paragraph. Bill Jefferys (talk) 00:32, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

  • How about this "minimalist" solution: Create a page that redirects 'PEGOT' to this article? Requires no changes at all to the article, but will broaden the search for those that look for 'PEGOT', even if it is a neologism. There's already a page that does it for people who look for 'EGOT'. Bill Jefferys (talk) 03:10, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Oscars 2014 (EGOT) for Robert Lopez and his wife

Winning with music, “Let it go” for the movie "Frozen" completes the EGOT (Emmy—Grammy—Oscar—Tony) [6]

  • QUOTING: "Let It Go" wins the Oscar. Robert Lopez has won an Emmy, Grammy, Oscar and Tony, apparently known as "EGOT". "Happy Oscars to you, Let's do Frozen 2", trill Kristen Anderson-Lopez and Robert Lopez. Adorable."

Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 04:55, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

 Done — Nicely added to the article! Good work.!. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 13:49, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Portrait-photos and pictures

The pictures in the article here are great and add to the readability and value of the article here. For example, the photo of Marvin Hamlish and his wife is excellent! It is an action picture. A single portrait-photo is often appropriate, like with the beautiful Audrey Hepburn—this is better than an action picture for her.

  • Jonathan Tunick does not have a picture, and as a conductor, an action picture would be great.
  • Mike Nichols does not have a picture.
  • Just recently, Scott Rudin has won the four award.
  • Also recently, Robert Lopez and his wife won (would be great with the two of them on the Oscars stage).

I'm good at suggesting improvements to the article here, but have no experience with adding pictures. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 13:47, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Triple Crown of Acting

Hi. I would like to create a separate page for the 19 actors and actresses who have won the Triple Crown of Acting: an Oscar, Tony, and Emmy all for acting. So far, the link just redirects here. Can someone help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbb618 (talk • contribs) 15:51, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Removing "Two competitive awards" section

The "Two competitive awards" section, which listed those who have received two out of the four EGOT awards, should not be included in this article. IThere are HUNDREDS if not thousands of such recipients, which don't just include actors but sound designers and makeup artists. Their inclusion excessively broadens the scope of this list, whose criteria are already defined by the article's title (even the "Three competitive awards" section is questionable, but there are far fewer recipients). -- Wikipedical (talk) 23:11, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Ray Dolby Emmy win is NOT a competitive win

He won a lifetime Achievement Award Emmy. So why is he listed as 'Missing Tony Award'? He should be under the section of winners who have won both competitive and honorary EGOT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.29.24.112 (talk) 13:40, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Ray Dolby doesn't have any competitive wins.--charge2charge (talk) 02:07, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Does Kristen Chenoweth count as GET?

Obviously, the part about the Grammy is shady. The soundtrack for Wicked won the Grammy for Best Musical Theater Album and apparently, the principal vocalists (Chenoweth, in this case, obviously being one of them) are included among the recipients. Billy Porter and Stark Sands have been considered Grammy-winners since the Kinky Boots soundtrack won this award. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.108.239.37 (talk) 20:35, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

The principal vocalists for a show recording only started receiving Grammy statues with the 2012 award year - well after Wicked won its award. Fryede (talk) 21:24, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Grammy Hall of Fame Award Winners Don't Receive a Grammy Just a Certificate

Right now Christopher Plummer & Harry Belafonte are listed as EGOT as winning a Grammy Hall of Fame Award. Yet they don't get an actual Grammy, but a certificate. For instance The Flamingos won a Grammy Hall of Fame Award, and on their website they just show the certificate, no Grammy Award. (theflamingos.com/awards) They show other statues, but the only thing they got was the certificate. So since this is about hardware, I don't think Christopher Plummer & Harry Belafonte qualify, as there is no hardware to their win.

btw Christopher Pummer isn't even listed as a Grammy Hall of Fame Award by name. It just says Julie Andrews & Various Artists (grammy.org/recording-academy/awards/hall-of-fame#p). That is because his singing voice on the soundtrack. His vocals were dubbed by Bill Lee. So Plummer vocals are nowhere on the soundtrack, which is why soundtrack is credited to 'various artists'. As such he is NOT EGOT. Someone please remove him and reconsider Belafonte

Christopher Plummer DID NOT WIN A GRAMMY. When will someone REMOVE HIM???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.73.148 (talk) 15:36, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Angela Lansbury doesn't have a Grammy Award

She is currently under the Three awards (non-competitive) and is listed as winning two Grammys. Yet on the Grammy award database, it comes up empty.

For the soundtrack of Mame, the Grammy award went to Jerry Herman.

For the soundtrack of Sweeney Todd the Grammy went to Stephen Sondheim & Thomas Z. Shepard.

The soundtrack for Gypsy & Dear World won no Grammys.

Angela Lansbury is not listed on the Grammy Awards database at all. Someone please remove her from Three awards (non-competitive).

Angela Lansbury DID NOT WIN A GRAMMY. When will someone REMOVE HER FROM Three awards (non-competitive)???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.73.148 (talk) 23:50, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Academy Awards which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 13:18, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Shortest Runs for Each

I think that for the EGOT winners chart, it should show the shortest run in which they achieved it, with any combination of wins.

Here are the shortest runs:

Richard Rogers - 17 Helen Hayes - 24 Rita Moreno - 16 John Gielgud - 30 Audrey Hepburn - 41 Marvin Hamlisch - 22 Jonathan Tunick - 20 Mel Brooks - 33 Mike Nichols - 40 Whoopi Goldberg - 17 Scott Rudin - 20 Robert Lopez - 4

ThomasM123 (talk) 01:47, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Special Emmy Awards

For the purposes of the EGOT, do the International Emmys, Sports Emmys, Technology and Engineering Emmys, News and Documentary Emmys, and Regional Emmys count? Because if so, Jon Blair should be kept in the list (if his Grammy for producing "State of Confusion" can be confirmed). If not, we need to make that clear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbb618 (talk • contribs) 23:37, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Idina Menzel

Shouldn't Idina join the 3-awards list? Her page states she got Academy, Grammy, and Tony awards. NtpNtp (talk) 21:04, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

That's an error; the Oscar for "Let It Go" went to the songwriters, not any performers. Trivialist (talk) 21:57, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Franchises With Three Competitive Awards List

I feel like this should be listed somewhere, but Trivialist undid from the main page because "franchises winning multiple awards not as impressive as one single person doing it" (not mad, just stating the facts). So, I've chosen to put it here in the talk page, so it has a place. If you know of another franchise with three or more competitive wins, please add it. Elisfkc (talk) 02:07, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Franchises With Three Competitive Awards

Six franchises have won three of the awards, five of which are owned by The Walt Disney Company. They are as follows, along with which awards they have won:

The Wizard of Oz has won two Oscars, ten Tonys (for The Wiz and Wicked), and a Grammy (Wicked). Not sure if this counts. It was also Emmy-nominated (for The Muppets' Wizard of Oz). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbb618 (talk • contribs) 21:55, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Adding on to this: The Music Man has won an Oscar, six Tonys, and a Grammy, with five Emmy nominations to boot. The Sound of Music has won a Grammy, five Tonys, and five Oscars. Cabaret has won twelve Tonys, eight Oscars, and a Grammy. Sweeney Todd won an Oscar, a Grammy, and ten Tonys. Evita won an Oscar, a Grammy, and seven Tonys. Dreamgirls won two Grammys, six Tonys, and two Oscars. West Side Story won three Tonys, three Grammys, and ten Oscars. Les Miserables won two Grammys, eight Tonys, and three Oscars. Chicago won six Tonys, a Grammy, and six Oscars. Once won an Oscar, eight Tonys, and a Grammy. If either An American in Paris or The King and I win Best Musical Theater Album in February (unlikely, but they're nominated), they will get their third award. Basically, a lot of musicals win Grammys and Oscars. Basically none win Emmys. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbb618 (talk • contribs) 02:12, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

@Sbb618: Just saw this. I don't think Wicked should count with it, but the other winners I'll add. I'm also moving it back to the main article, since I believe this is a harder achievement, since most franchises only have a couple shots at the awards, if they even get a second chance. Elisfkc (talk) 16:40, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
  1. ^ http://www.theatermania.com/new-york-city-theater/news/01-2014/thats-grammy-winners-billy-porter-and-stark-sands-_67310.html
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