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Archive 1

Revert Anonymous Edits

Anonymous edits dated January 19, 2007 seemed to be from someone with a grudge against the university trying to present their criticism as the general student body view. Reverted to my last edit. I encourage discussion if anyone feels this POV needs to be included in the article. Tim Butler 03:37, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Unofficial sites

LU has, to the best of my knowledge, two sites maintained by the faculty. A recent edit removed those sites that I had added, and I have reverted that change (but not the other changes made at that time). Because these sites have some course descriptions and are promoted to students by the faculty of Lindenwood University, it seems reasonable that they have a place on this page. Tim Butler 00:39, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

I think listing faculty links and unofficial sites will open the doors to many links that don't belong. However if you feel its important I'll leave it in. Thanks Grey Wanderer | Talk 00:48, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Right now, those are the only ones I know of. I'd suggest perhaps we reconsider if the use of unofficial sites grows. The education related one is especially useful for students in that department however; the philosophy one is less active, but may still be useful. Tim Butler 00:15, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

When became co-ed?

An old friend of mine, Jean Flock, entered Lindenwood in 1959, at which time her mother wrote it was "a four-year college for girls". By 1989, according to the article they had co-ed dorms,so somewhere in the 1959-1989 interval it must have gone co-ed. Seems like this would be a good thing to put in the article, if anyone knows. (I regret to say that many years later I learned that Jean Flock was killed in a car crash, I believe near Miami in 1974, so I cannot ask her.) Wwheaton (talk) 07:25, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm unsure, but believe it was around 1969 that the college became co-ed. Badgerclark (talk) 04:12, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Found a citation in the alumni letter [| The Connection, Fall 2006]. There was an I/O error downloading beyond the second page. Second page, A Letter from the President
[...]became co-educational and expanded the evening program in 1969[...]Badgerclark (talk) 14:49, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

NPOV

I think the article may need revision as it reads POV, to me. In fact the expansion section is taken word for word from the university's website. I know it is difficult to keep paid university officials away from editing their own wikipedia entries, but anyone want to take a stab at clearing it up? In addition, while the article contains citations, they generally reference non-substantive tangential facts. The meat of the article is unsourced.Xadnder (talk) 09:20, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I fixed much of the issues with the expansion section, trimmed down much of the unsourced copied information, and reworded and sourced the larger projects. hopefully that helps. --Bhockey10 (talk) 08:15, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Userboxes

I recently created a userbox for LU sports fans and there is also an exisitng one for students and aumni to add to your user pages. Just copy and past {{User:UBX/LindenwoodLions}} and/or {{Template:User LU}} into your user page. Bhockey10 (talk) 01:13, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Fastest growing

Just looked over the page to help it's GA nomination out. I have one concern that needs to be addressed here. The "fastest growing university in the midwest" claim. We need a better source if this is to remain in the article. A news article would be best. The current one certainly does not meet reliability criteria. Lindenwood's growth rate is fantastic, however, I have doubts about the claim as I've heard of several universities growing faster. So any idea if we can find a reliable third-party source? Grey Wanderer (talk) 01:04, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

  • If that's one of a few small thing and/or the only thing holding the article back from a GA status I don't have of a problem with 1.) removing that line if I can't find another source, or 2) rewording that line to a more general statement like: "one of the fastest growing..." or "Lindenwood is a fast growing midwestern university." The current source is a third party source from the Abbeville Institute. I don't know much about that org but the line is cited from it looks like a scholarly conference type event it looks like from their website they hold annually at various locations every year. It does make sense because the line reads "fastest growing... since 1990." 1989 they had less than 800 students and now just shy of 15,000. Bhockey10 (talk) 05:58, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Done: I did a quick google search and found an article from the Riverfront Times, and a few from the Post Dispatch. Bhockey10 (talk) 22:46, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Notable Alumni

Someone changed this from a bullet pointed list to paragraph form. I'm not sure that was the best move ... most other school pages have this in bullet form. Also, lots of misspelled words and sentence fragments ... almost needs complete re-write. I hope an LU student didn't write this! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.100.44.190 (talk) 03:58, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia, everyone is welcome to edit Wikipedia so in the future there's really no need to discuss non controvertial edits such as correcting two or three misspellings. As far a bulleted format vs paragraph style, the bulleted/list style is not appropriate for articles per WP:UNIGUIDE. Bhockey10 (talk) 04:59, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Seal

The seal should be displayed rather than the just the coat of arms. Use of the seal is more consistent with other university articles. I'm not sure where to find a current version of the seal, but I noticed that the coat of arms does not appear to match the one from the old Lindenwood College seal that was in use for decades. BlueGold73 (talk) 13:48, 16 February 2011 (UTC) thumb|120px|left

I'd love to find a modern seal for the article, where did that old seal come from? I haven't been able to find a modern seal so maybe the source of that will have a modern version. Actually looking at the coat of arms and the one on the old seal it does match, there's those three moon-shaped things surrounding a griffin in the center. and a knight's helmet above. In the coat of arms on the old seal the knight is facing forward while it looks like the more modern coat of arms it is a profile view.Bhockey10 (talk) 16:25, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
I did some digging and found a modern version of the seal, also I moved the image of the historical seal into the history section of the article, thanks for your help and contribution. Bhockey10 (talk) 16:41, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Looks Great! BlueGold73 (talk) 00:01, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Jezhotwells (talk) 15:49, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.

Disambiguations: none found.

Linkrot: five found and tagged.[1] Jezhotwells (talk) 15:54, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

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GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
    Its athletic teams, called the Lions, and are currently in the process of transitioning athletics from the NAIA as members of the Heart of America Conference to NCAA Division II as members of the Mid-America Intercollegiate Athletic Association. Poorly written and confusing.{[done}}
    Fixed- cleaned up and reworded.
    the university offers a large network of student life including athletics, honor societies, clubs and student organizations, and fraternities and sororities. "a large network of student life" network is not the right word here. Done
    Fixed/reworded
    During The Sibleys' time at Fort Osage Mary, has been recorded as having taught children at Fort Osage capitalization, wronglt placed comma. Done
    Fixed improper capitalization and comma placement. also wording cleanup.
    While at Fort Sibley, George acquired little more than 0.5 square kilometres (120 acres) of land in St. Charles, Missouri. a little more? Done
    Fixed- reworded, clarified and expanded paragraph
    ''In 1913 the school became an accredited junior college by the North Central Association. Poorly phrased. Done
    Fixed/Rephrased
    The college and became a co-educational institution in 1969 and changed its name from Lindenwood College for Women to Lindenwood Colleges. Done
    Fixed
    It needs a thorough copy-edit by someone with a good command of plain English. The WP:Guild of copyeditors may be able to help. Done
    Still a lot of elementary errors. In the next section I find By 1989, Lindenwood College was low on monetary resources, had low enrollement below 800 students, and in danger of closing. Frankly that is just plain shoddy. Get it copy-edited. It is not a requirement taht a GA reveiewer point out every grammatical error. That sort of work should be done before nomination.
It had a peer review about a month ago but has since been expanded, also after reading the copyedit link you provided I realized they are different. I did an extensive copyedit reading the entire article myself. cleaned up a bunch of tiny errors and also a few sentence restructures such as the one you pointed out. In addition to my copyedit I also placed a request for a copyedit since it never hurts to have a few people review it/in case I missed anything.
  1. Short one or two sentence sections such as Lindenwood University Press and Student profile should be avoided.
    Fixed: Merged into larger approprate sections.
    Still need to consoldiate one or two sentence paragraphs.
Fixed: consolidated paragraphs and also recieved extensive copyedit.
  1. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
    Five deadlinks as noted above.
Fixed linkrot
Fixed or any new linkrot in the past 24-48 hrs?

Available sources support cited statements, sources appear RS, no evidence of OR

  1. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
    satisfies criteria
  2. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  3. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  4. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
    Suitable tags, rationales and captions
  5. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:
    On hold for seven days for a thorough copy-edit to be performed. When that has happened, I can continue the review. Jezhotwells (talk) 16:20, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
    Much still to be done. See if you can get help from projects or the guild of copyeditors. Jezhotwells (talk) 14:58, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
    OK, I think this passes muster now. I am happyto list this. Congratulations. Jezhotwells (talk) 01:33, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

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Fastest growing university in the Midwest

Does anybody know of an updated source for the claim that Lindenwood is the "fastest growing University in the Midwest?" Of the four sources provided one is seventeen years old and three are eleven years old. Additionally, they should be reliable third-party sources. Grey Wanderer (talk) 22:11, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

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Older Talk Comments

Whoever wrote this page needs to get their facts straight! The University Paper is a joke.

Why don't you fix the errors that are there? Be bold... Dysprosia 01:48, 26 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Fastest growing revisited

I've removed the claim the Lindenwood is the fastest growing University in the Midwest. The sources are almost ten years old and according to the Missouri Department of Higher Education enrollment has shrank almost 30% the past few years. [2]

Good catch, Late RE but I moved that referenced and notable info into the Spellmann Era history. Definitely didn't belong in the lead as it wasn't current info anymore but appropriate for history note. Bhockey10 (talk) 21:59, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
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