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Article cleanup

The article has a generally promotional tone and contains a lot of information more suitable to a curriculum vita than an encyclopedia article. It has also been extensively edited by a series of SPAs. I intend to spend some time cleaning the thing up and bringing it more into line with a standard biographical article. This would be a good place to discuss the edits that I'm making - thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 12:41, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

The "Publications" section was particularly bad, reflecting a long and detailed list of publications and implying that Glass had authored material for all of them. It was too detailed and needed to be shorter in any event; but upon my review, I discovered that several of the links turned out to be links to PR or other promotional sites featuring Glass and making the same claims about her publications; or to articles in which she was not the author at all but merely mentioned - sometimes in passing. Rather than parse the entire thing for the perhaps one or two articles that she had actually written, and for which a direct source could be identified, I removed it all. Please discuss restoration of individual items here before restoring. Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 14:32, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
A lot of the references were incorrectly formatted and I've fixed those (marginally). Substantively, I removed lengthy lists of TV shows, "celebrity clients", and publications as more worthy of a self-published biography than an encyclopedia article. I also removed a dozen or more references that established the exact same point as an existing ref, and which had led to long strings of footnote markers. Many other references were generic links to one or another organization or website, and did not support the proposition for which they were being cited. I removed those and noted the need for a citation. The refs need more work, both in format and in substance, but both they and the article are substantially leaner now and - in my view - represent a substantial improvement over what was there before. One can read this article and gain quite a full understanding of the subject's work and career, without having to wade through a lot of extra (and in many cases blatantly promotional) material. JohnInDC (talk) 16:45, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
I note that an IP editor, an SPA working only on matters relating to the subject, has begun to restore, without comment, material that I've removed for the reasons I've given here. At least one of the restorations was simply incorrect - adding back in a course of study, with a reference, where the course of study was not mentioned in the reference at all. I ask the editor to please discuss his or her concerns here rather than simply undoing the necessary work that I have done. Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 11:42, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
The article contained this sentence: "In a civil case where the plaintiff was awarded no compensation by mock jury, the plaintiff was later awarded a $33 million verdict after working with Glass as his litigation consultant." The ref was an (unlinked) LA Times article. I found the original, here - http://articles.latimes.com/2003/nov/20/local/me-doc20 - and determined that while the plaintiff did recover $33 million, nothing was reported about a mock trial or the subject's role in obtaining the eventual award. Because the statement is thus completely unreferenced, I've removed it. JohnInDC (talk) 20:37, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
The anon SPA editor has again without comment restored a variety of material I'd removed, and discussed here, some of of the restorations being objectively incorrect. I've left comments at the editor's Talk page, here, strongly suggesting that the editor come and discuss their concerns here rather than just revert my cleanup efforts. I am especially concerned given the history of this page, which reflects substantial & repeated SPA involvement, as well as the fact that a prior version of the page (deleted, hence no edit history here) had been extensively edited by a paid representative of the subject, as well as (to a lesser extent) by the subject herself. See this edit from 2010. I would of course welcome participation by the IP, as well as any comments by any disinterested editor; thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 00:38, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

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