Talk:Lilith/Archive 5
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External reference
The article states :"Some uses of līlītu are listed in The Assyrian Dictionary of the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago (CAD, 1956, L.190), ... ". But I can't find it.
I am looking at [1] on what is labelled page 190, and on what the pdf-viewer identifies as the page 190 (which are different due to initial pages that don't have page numbers).
Can someone please check?
178.2.236.39 (talk) 18:02, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
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The meaning of Lillith
In Gilgamesh, Enkidu, and the Netherworld the description reminds very much at Gylfaginning 16 of the Edda and has in fact the same meaning. The tree is the world ash tree Yggdrasil which means the earth axis elongated to heaven (space). The serpent at the root of the tree is the constellation Draco lying round the north pole and called Nidhöggr in the Edda. The Anzu bird with his brood in the tree is similar to the eagle of the Edda, the constellation Corvus. Over him sits in the Edda the hawk Werdsöllnir which means the constellation Aquila. Very probably it is meant with the Anzu bird. On Top of all this the demon Lillith is located which means the constellation Cygnus. This last identification surrendered from the songs she sang according to Gilgamesh, Enkidu, and the Netherworld which reminds at king Cygnus of the Ligurians who according to Pausanias was a skilled musician and the Ligurians were famous singers depicted at Homer's Odyssee as the Sirenes.--2003:F5:F718:CF00:50E1:DF40:632D:199D (talk) 09:41, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
Screech Owl
Screech Owls are native to the North American continent and it seems unlikely Lillith should be translated to such. Are there any reputable sources for this translation? Viper Daimao (talk) 19:51, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- Screech-owl is used in the King James Bible[1]. Screech-owls (Megascops) are restricted to the Americas, but the common name "screech-owl" is sometimes used for the not closely related common barn-owl (Tyto alba) as well. Barn-owls are found in all continents except the Arctic and the Antarctic regions.
References
- ^ https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+34:14&version=KJV Screech-owl in Isaiah 34:14 (King James)
- Yeah; Wikipedia's own article on the Screech owl makes clear-- or makes it possible to learn-- that as well as the common Barn Owl, other owls outside the Americas, i.e., Old World scops owls in Otus were considered or commonly known as screech owls in times past (including, apparently, at the time of the King James Bible translation). There should be a way to indicate this clearly. Nlaylah (talk) 05:03, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Explanatory footnote? (Template:Efn). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:37, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah; Wikipedia's own article on the Screech owl makes clear-- or makes it possible to learn-- that as well as the common Barn Owl, other owls outside the Americas, i.e., Old World scops owls in Otus were considered or commonly known as screech owls in times past (including, apparently, at the time of the King James Bible translation). There should be a way to indicate this clearly. Nlaylah (talk) 05:03, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
External reference
The article states :"Some uses of līlītu are listed in The Assyrian Dictionary of the Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago (CAD, 1956, L.190), ... ". But I can't find it.
I am looking at [1] on what is labelled page 190, and on what the pdf-viewer identifies as the page 190 (which are different due to initial pages that don't have page numbers).
Can someone please check?
178.2.236.39 (talk) 18:02, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
- This monumental dictionary is a multi-volume work.
- Your link is to Vol. 6 - 'H'; it should be to Vol. 9 - 'L'.
- The entry is on original page 190 (pdf page 210).
- Hope that helps. .John M Brear (talk) 16:56, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
Source confusion on page
There's a section stating, "For example, in the 11th-century writings of Isaac ben Jacob ha-Cohen, Lilith left Adam after she refused to become subservient to him and then would not return to the Garden of Eden after she had coupled with the archangel Samael," but I don't believe that's correct. The Treatise on the Left Emanation says that Lilith is parallel to Eve and born as one with Samael. The text seems to be partly confused with the Alphabet of ben Sirach, but that doesn't refer to Samael, though maybe there are some versions that refer to the "great demon" Am I incorrect on thinking this? 2600:387:F:4C17:0:0:0:C (talk) 09:51, 11 November 2021 (UTC)