Talk:Lawrence Spivak

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The American Mercury

Section 1.1 Lawrence E. Spivak#The American Mercury and the first part of section 1.2 Meet the Press contain information that either needs correction or needs incorporation in the magazine and publisher articles The American Mercury and Mercury Publications.

Here we say Spivak became business manager for the magazine in 1934, purchased it in 1939, edited it from 1944 until he sold it in 1950. And he "sold his interest in Mercury Publications in 1954."

In the magazine article, he purchased it in January 1935, as the "longtime business manager".
In the publisher article "Spivak entered publishing in 1933 as the business manager of The American Mercury, and two years later, he became the magazine's publisher".

The articles should be reconciled by corrections and expansions as appropriate.

Posted also at Talk:The American Mercury#Lawrence E. Spivak and Talk:Mercury Publications#Lawrence E. Spivak.

--P64 (talk) 22:56, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(expand after cross-posting) --P64 (talk) 23:09, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 22 June 2021

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Moved as proposed. After much-extended time for discussion, there has been discussion without specific objection to the proposal, and at least one comment suggesting that the proposed target reflects the subjects usage during the most significant period of their notable activities. BD2412 T 05:17, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lawrence E. Spivak → Lawrence Spivak – WP:PRIMARYTOPIC because there are no other notable people named Lawrence Spivak at this time. Also, WP:SELFIDENTITY - Spivak did not use his middle initial when introducing himself on Meet the Press for instance at the beginning of this 1973 episode of MTP. As such, the media usually skipped his middle initial except in the most formal of circumstances, see this 1991 C-SPAN interview (1:00 of video), 1994 Washington Post obituary headlined "Lawrence Spivak, journalist, dies", and Associated Press story also from 1994 that begins: "Lawrence Spivak, originator of NBC’s “Meet the Press” and pioneer of television’s Sunday news show format..." Arbor to SJ (talk) 04:14, 22 June 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. BD2412 T 18:03, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral. Subject's pen name on the masthead of The American Mercury and on the covers of his books was indeed "Lawrence E.", as confirmed by the Lawrence E. Spivak papers and his obituary in The New York Times. However, he was also frequently referenced as simply "Lawrence". Those interested in reviewing a longer discussion on this general topic may glance at the nominator's initially unsuccessful and subsequently successful submission of Ben J. Wattenberg → Ben Wattenberg at Talk:Ben Wattenberg#Requested move 23 June 2017. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 05:12, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Google Ngram shows his print SELFIDENTITY dominating in the 1930s and up to circa 1946 when his radio and television SELFIDENTITY began taking over, a difference that became pronounced when he began moderating Meet the Press in the latter half of the 1960s. Long-term significance (post-2000 Ngrams) seems to give the edge to the broadcast identity over the print identity. – wbm1058 (talk) 23:12, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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