Talk:Larmanjat guided rail system

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A fact from Larmanjat guided rail system appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 8 June 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Larmanjat guided rail system was successfully demonstrated in England but failed completely when used commercially in Lisbon?

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The result was: promoted by Launchballer talk 07:40, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The spoked wheel on the front alters the weight distribution between road and rail wheels

... that early locomotives using the Larmanjat guided rail system had an extra operator at the front (pictured) to adjust the weight distribution between the road wheels and the rail wheels?

Source:Cazeneuve, Albert (1879). Les chemins de fer à l'Exposition universelle (in French). Guillaumin et Cie. p. 100. Un appareil d'une manœvre simple et rapide permettait au mécanicien de faire à volonté supporter le poids de la machine soit par les roues directrices, soit par les roues motrices et de réduire ou de développer ansi, suivant les besoins, l'adhérence dans une proportion correspondant à la différance qui existe entre la traction sur voie ferrée et la traction sur route ordinaire.

ALT1: ... that in 1873 the Larmanjat guided rail system was successfully demonstrated at Buckhurst Hill, England, but the system failed completely when used commercially in Lisbon? Source: The Times 31 December 1872 page 4: A section of line on the proposed system had been laid down at Buckhurst Hill and an engine and rolling stock worked over it in the most satisfactory manner. But:
[1] page 575: Law report from Court of Chancery, London, that the company formed for the Lisbon tramways had completely failed in its undertaking.
ALT2: ... that on the locomotives using the Larmanjat guided rail system the driving wheels were loose on the axle and the tractive force was transferred through wound-up springs? Source: [2] Engineering (magazine) 20 May 1870 page 354: "The driving wheels are not connected rigidly to the axle but are connected with it by spiral springs."
Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1973 Eclipse Flight of Concorde 001

Created by AntientNestor (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

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AntientNestor (talk) 16:43, 30 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

This review is for ALT0 because it is the only one using a picture:

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image eligibility:

Freely licensed:
Used in article: - no, but it is merely a crop from a larger version used in the article, which actually works better at the small size to illustrate the hook. So acceptable to me.
Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Thanks for your work on this good article. The picture is a bit fuzzy at the small size but doable; but if this hook will not be used on the first line, then ALT1 also checks out and is acceptable. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 19:55, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AntientNestor: @P199: There are a few uncited paragraph claims, so make sure to address them first please. PrimalMustelid (talk) 17:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PrimalMustelid: Fixed.--AntientNestor (talk) 09:27, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AntientNestor, P199, and PrimalMustelid: Article attributes the claim, the hook doesn't. This should be changed.--Laun chba ller 14:33, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies, I should have said I was looking to promote ALT1.--Laun chba ller 16:56, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, I just noticed that the hook says "failed completely" here but ""completely failed"" in the article, so not a quote. My mistake.--Laun chba ller 07:39, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Canal de Bourgogne

For a few months Larmanjat ran an experimental line along the towpath of the Canal de Bourgogne—see: Larmanjat guided rail system#Canal de Bourgogne. The WP category "Canals in France" isn't foremost in mind for this railroad topic, but it might be a fit. See [3]--AntientNestor (talk) 13:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]