Talk:Labour Day/Archives/2015

Wearing white

An old fashioned tradition frowns upon the wearing of white after Labour Day. According to the tradition, when is it OK to start wearing white again? GoingBatty (talk) 19:56, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

The information is not in our "Labor Day" article, but Googling suggests Memorial Day or possibly Easter. --62.189.73.197 (talk) 09:13, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

India is also celebrating the labour day as Microsoft is not aware with this word till now once you write this word on word file that shows wrong spelling of labour. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.12.91.234 (talk) 05:40, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Three entries, two entries, one entry ?

May Day, Labor Day, Labour Day... I understand US Labour Day is specific (it's exactly like May Day, was instituted in remembrance of the 1886 Haymarket Riot, but is in September - well, doesn't matter that much, does it?), so maybe it should be kept a separate entry (in particular to keep the main Labor Day entry getting too big). But, what's the difference between May Day and Labor Day? In all European countries, to my knowledge, both are not only synonyms, but identicals! Let's merge both of them, and keep the US specific labor apart, what d'ya think boyz? Kaliz 02:58, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

No, the article should not be merged as they are not identical. Labor Day refers to a specific US holiday. May Day does not primarily refer to a holiday as such, but a date of international observance. May Day is celebrated all over the world, also in countries where its not a public holiday. --Soman 10:53, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

What May Day is actually referred to in different languages varies. Sometimes its called 'International Day of the Workers', etc., but the general English-language term is simply May Day. --Soman 10:54, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

• Just after the above discussions, Labour Day was changed to redirect to May Day, but the content was not merged: the information in Labour Day was effectively deleted. I've reverted this. If you want to merge, then merge, but don't just turn a proper article into a redirect. Personally, I suggest that Labor Day and Labour Day should be merged, as they are two spellings for the same thing; the US-specific information in Labor Day would work just as well in the form of one more national section in what is now the Labour Day article, and some merging of US and Canadian information would be possible. (It doesn't matter which of the two spellings is used for the primary name.) But I think May Day should remain separate, since May Day exists (it may not be a holiday, but it exists) in countries with a separate Labo(u)r Day. -- 207.176.159.90 00:25, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

• Well lets merge all national holidays onto one page!!! -

Labour Day is a Canadian Holiday, Labor day is an American one - it makes no sense to put them on the same page!! It doesn't take much effort to click a link. But lets use Labour (CDN english spelling) - I know that people will try to force it to be the 'Americanized' version - which shows why each nation should have their own page. It doesn't cause much of a conflict.

I prefer 1 article as well. In Malaysia, we celebrate Labour Day on May 1 and it's an official public holiday here. We don't call it May Day nor do we celebrate the US Labor Day in September. Just FYI. - kris from Malaysia.

I added a merge tag. It does not make sense to split this article up into several stubs just because there are differences with how countries celebrate and spell basically the same holiday. The whole article needs work and by merging all these stubs and rewriting it in a clear and concise mannor these issues can be worked out. P.S. beacause Wikipedia is an American organization I'd argue to use the "Americanized" spelling with a note of how it is spelled in Canada or elsewhere. :PJoshua4 04:17, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Any single article on holidays supposedly about workers would have to be very vague. Besides the spelling, which after years of editing Wikipedia I don't consider superficial, the holidays have different days, moods, and purposes. What information would be gained from an article that had to smooth over both socialism and anti-socialism? I hope that the sections on individual countries can be expanded and split off, especially Canada (as it shares the U.S. date but obviously does not celebrate a U.S. federal holiday). -Acjelen 12:16, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Acjelen. I think the article is headed in the right direction as it is now. It would be great if the Labor Day in the United States section had a summary blurb to go with the main article redirect, but growing each section and then splitting them when they get bigger is a common form in Wikipedia. I think it works well.--Bookandcoffee 14:18, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

This article is a mess. Much of it is not about Labour Day. Much of it is about May 1. This should be changed! Labour Day is just about the holiday in Canada. Sandra opposed to terrorism (talk) 21:28, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Articles Labour Day, May Day and International Workers' Day

From the discussion above, it seems that the most natural way to divide the content between these three articles with overlapping scope would be:

• International Workers' Day: Labour-related celebrations on 1 May (or first Monday in May);
• May Day: All celebrations on 1 May (or first Monday in May), with a focus on celebrations not connected with International Workers' Day. Cross-ref to International Workers' Day.
• Labour Day: All labour-related celebrations on any day of the year, with a focus on celebrations not on 1 May (or first Monday in May). Cross-ref to International Workers' Day.

Accordingly, I have cleaned out some duplicate content (and, in the case of the India-related content, an essay) which is already adequately covered in other articles. If you disagree, then some discussion about how the contents should be divided between the articles is probably warranted. --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 15:09, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

This is wrong but a good start. The good part is...

• International Workers' Day: Labour-related celebrations on 1 May (or first Monday in May);
• May Day: All celebrations on 1 May (or first Monday in May), with a focus on celebrations not connected with International Workers' Day. Cross-ref to International Workers' Day.

The bad part is:

• Labour Day: All labour-related celebrations on any day of the year, with a focus on celebrations not on 1 May (or first Monday in May). Cross-ref to International Workers' Day.

It should be corrected to only the Labour Day in Canada. Sandra opposed to terrorism (talk) 21:32, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

On that note, I've also reverted the Amerocentric "History" section just added by Iloilo Wanderer here. Please note that in Australia, for example, the beginnings pre-date US Labor Day. Either the articles are merged with dedicated sections and English variations are incorporated into one cumbersome article, or they're kept separate with appropriate hatnotes for each article as is currently the logical method being followed. Mixing and matching histories is WP:SYNTH and is not encyclopaedic. Please remember that the project follows reliable sources, so can we please stop creating one WP:OR holiday/celebration that doesn't exist.

The US/Canadian spelling of 'Labor Day' article uses a hatnote that takes the reader to a dab page which is Amerocentric. If "Labour Day" is spelt thus in Canada, the holiday should certainly be here and not on the "Labor Day" article. The dab page should also be expanded to reflect the WP:COMMONNAME in various countries. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:47, 7 September 2015 (UTC)