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Poor English

This article is written in horrible English. It has a lot of basic problems like use of the wrong pronoun, use of the wrong preposition, and awkward stilted language. It serves no purpose when there is already a "Gay rights in the Philipines" article, and should be deleted.198.229.244.47 (talk) 08:43, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Merge into "Gay rights in the Philippines"

The articles deal with the same topic. The title "Gay rights in..." is a wikipedia-standart for gay issues of a certain country. 亮HH 16:46, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Agree - Gtstricky 19:49, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Bad idea. Let's see, there is gay lingo, gay rights, gay clubs, gay organizations, gay movies, gay history. This whole gay thing is a organizational mess. Needs to be cleaned up. "Homosexuality in" should be head topics, with rights, lingo, etc as subtopics. Needs to be all tied together with easily navigable templates. The way it is now is so messy. Doseiai2 (talk) 04:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Needed

A lot of revision and references needed. --Limxzero (talk) 08:50, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

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most gay friendly in Asia?

The survey included 7 Asian countries and left out taiwan. The survey itself is available at: http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/06/04/the-global-divide-on-homosexuality/ . I don't want to change the article myself because I would have to change the source and the article about the survey contains information not found in the survey itself and is still a source for other informations in the article. JustBen81 (talk) 08:41, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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Inadvertent overwriting of edits

Hello @Eustatius Strijder. I may have accidentally edited out your most recent edits of today. My sincere apologies; that was not my intention. I started making adjustments, as I thought some recent additions were unwarranted. Then, mid-editing, I went on a long search for a source which says that same-sex activity is illegal in Marawi. (No luck yet, but it seems like not everything is settled yet?)

When I resumed editing, I got confused and did not adhere to correct practice. Please feel free to change anything in my edit, and restore anything of yours. I am not quite happy with my own temporary solution to the Marawi situation anyway...it was best I could think of for the moment. Thanks for your understanding. AukusRuckus (talk) 05:59, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

No problem. Sure its free for you to edit it, remember that not everything its listed in the ILGA sources. There could be an additional one too, for instance BBC and Human Rights Watch have only documented that same-sex sexual activity is Illegal in Aceh territory only. But the ILGA used to list several outdated sources for Indonesia, that was back then written by Dede Oetomo ‘being LGBT in Asia’ in 2014. Dede has already agreed to update the data to be its updated in its current one, but we are only going to update the data for ILGA this year. Back in the ILGA state sponsored homophobia 2020, the data for Indonesia has not yet been updated yet. Eustatius Strijder (talk) 06:12, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

There is no need to write an X mark in the summary table since the law haven’t been enacted yet. Write an X mark in the summary box if such laws are *signed into law*. Eustatius Strijder (talk) 08:35, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Doubtful claim about Homosexuality becoming illegal for Muslims in Bangsamoro Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao

It is implied by one user who recently modified the page that the establishment of a Sharia High Court in the newly formed Bangsamoro Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao signifies the adoption and application of a Sharia-based Penal Code, or of at least some Sharia-based criminal laws, in this region. However, Sharia courts exist in Mindanao since the promulgation of the Presidential Decree 1083, otherwise called the Code of Muslim Personal Laws of the Philippines, in 1977. These courts applies Sharia law in civil cases, of personal and family disputes only, they are not courts of criminal law.

Furthermore, the document for the establishment of such a court also states “nothing contained [in the Bangsamoro Basic Law (BBL)] shall affect the original and appellate jurisdiction of the Supreme Court [of the Philippines] as provided in the constitution [of the Philippines].” See: https://www.rappler.com/nation/207171-bicameral-conference-committee-approval-shariah-high-court-bangsamoro/

According to this article: https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1054885 "Our Shariah courts handle cases or complaints such as divorce, property or real estate disputes, child support, dowry questions, determination of degrees of affinity or consanguinity, determination of paternity and filiation, and like cases" and also "Shariah clerk of court, the decree stipulates, may also, “act as District Registrar of Muslim Marriages, Divorces, Revocations of Divorces, and Conversions within the territorial jurisdiction of said court. The Clerk of Court of the Shari'a Circuit Court shall act as Circuit Registrar of Muslim Marriages, Divorces, Revocations of Divorces, and Conversions within his jurisdiction.”

Therefore, the claim that the adoption of the Bangsamoro Organic Law and the establishment of the Bangsamoro Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao will result in homosexuality becoming illegal for muslims in that region does not have any sources that confirm it in that Wikipedia page, and if no sources can be found that explicitly confirm that claim, then the mentions of this claim must be removed from the article.

Snarcky1996 (talk) 15:33, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

I agree. It also isn't in the cnnphilippines.com source cited.PrisonerB (talk) 15:53, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
If there is no objections after some time, I will modify the page accordingly.
Snarcky1996 (talk) 20:00, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
I removed it.PrisonerB (talk) 12:07, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Thank you. I also removed the "Notes" section about it. Snarcky1996 (talk) 12:36, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Missed that footnote. Thank you.PrisonerB (talk) 13:08, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
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