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A fact from LAPD Special Investigation Section appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 April 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the LAPD Special Investigation Section trains military special forces in surveillance?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/LAPD Special Investigation Section.

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The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 08:47, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the LAPD operates a "Death Squad"? Source: "An elite group of detectives in the Los Angeles police force known as the 'death squad' ..."
- ALT1: ... that the LAPD Special Investigation Section has been involved in over 50 shootouts? Source: "(The SIS) has confronted hundreds of armed suspects, fought in more than 50 gun battles, killed at least 34 suspects and wounded dozens of others."
- ALT2: ... that the Special Investigation Section is the deadliest unit in the LAPD? Source: "It remains the LAPD's deadliest unit ..."
- ALT3: ... that the LAPD Special Investigation Section watches crimes happen and waits to intervene? Source: "The secretive, 19-man unit watches armed robbers and burglars but rarely tries to arrest them until after the thieves have victimized shopkeepers, homeowners and others ..."
- ALT4: ... that the LAPD Special Investigation Section trains military special forces in surveillance? Source: "Delta Force and the Navy SEALS, the military's best, come to be trained by SIS in surveillance."
- ALT5: ... that the LAPD Special Investigation Section designed its own handgun and body armor? Source: "... a new edition of its model 1911 pistol that had been designed for officers in the Special Investigations Section." "SIS officers worked with S.O. Tech staff on the design of the Cobra armor carrier ..."
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- Comment: Sorry if these are a lot of hooks. If the main hook isn't good, pick whichever one you think would be good for the front page (I prefer ALT3 and ALT4 the most).

Created by AdoTang (talk). Self-nominated at 00:06, 26 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/LAPD Special Investigation Section; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

4 is the strongest, but at the same time, I think the 5th one should be reworded for something better in terms of that gun. 4 meets all length and age (17K bytes at start; made 2-25), neutrality (not biased in any way), no negativity issues. 3 is really bland and probably the one I like the least. 2 is above that. 1 is really not a good hook. I think 4th is the strongest, but 5th could be improved to be the superior one. Lack of photos hurts the article in my opinion, but that's not a DYK requirement. I would, however, redo citation 1 to mark LAPD as publisher. Mitch32^{(won't you be my neighbor?)} 01:06, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. Sorry for not replying earlier.

What do you mean by "something better in terms of that gun"? Could you suggest a better hook for ALT5?
I did that LAPD publisher thing already. Not at the time you posted your review, but I still did it.
In replying, I added a link to the special forces page in ALT4, because I forgot to do that the first time around.

Also, if you have to pick, yeah, I'd agree ALT4 is pretty good. AdoTang (talk) 12:20, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What I meant is that your source mentions the gun. It might be a better hook if you list the name of the gun in a such as form. Mitch32^{(won't you be my neighbor?)} 14:25, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I still don't get you. Do you want me to add "such as the Kimber SIS" or something in there? Because that doesn't make sense and is incompatible with this sentence. Could you jot down an actual example of this? Because to me, ALT5 works as is. AdoTang (talk) 06:41, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ALT5A: ... that the LAPD Special Investigation Section designed its own handgun and body armor, such as its model 1911 pistol? Mitch32^{(won't you be my neighbor?)} 02:05, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

~~Need new reviewer for hook ALT5A, just to be sure. Cielquiparle (talk) 17:06, 22 March 2023 (UTC)~~ Striking previous request for new reviewer, as there are plenty of other approved hooks to choose from. Cielquiparle (talk) 08:43, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]