Talk:Knitta Please

Good article nomination

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

After being informed of this article by somebody unaffiliated it yesterday, I have checked it over thoroughly and checked the sources, and now it has been taken off hold and open to a review, it passes all of the good article criteria, thus I'm promoting it. Congratulations and keep up the good work. Cheers, Qst 15:39, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Changes

Laralove, congrats on making this article GA. Now, let's make it better. Let's start with an edit you just reverted: Replacing "International Exposure" with "Works." Right now, the section contains "The group and their followers..." that is about philosophy, not exposure; a sentence about the LA job, and a sentence about a Paris job. It's not a coherent section, and certainly is not all about "International Exposure." In fact, the single sentence about Paris is the one "international" thing about it. I suggest setting up a section: "Works." PRRfan (talk) 20:55, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

There's information about the Great Wall of China as well as some other overseas exposure. It's just a matter of getting a reliable source, as blogs dominate searches at this point. The rename is fine, but cutting the subsections, I can't agree with that. Also, moving information from the body into the lead because of redundancy, that's totally against WP:LEAD. Lara❤Love 21:05, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

One thing at a time here. The "International Exposure" section has only one item about "international exposure", and doesn't even include the China bit. This part of the article's structure, therefore, makes no sense. What would make sense is one section about the group, its origins, methods, and philosophy; and one section about notable works. PRRfan (talk) 21:09, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't like the Works title at all. It implies that we are going to get into a simple list of works. International exposure shows how the group has been recognized in different nations. It certainly avoids a US-centric tag and is far more applicable than 'works.' International exposure is not the same as saying 'exposure outside of the United States.' the_undertow ^talk 01:10, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough. Now that the philosophy bit is resting elsewhere, "international exposure" works better as a subhead. PRRfan (talk) 00:00, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll find an RS for the China event tomorrow. I'll look for some other stuff as well. Lara❤Love 08:00, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Sigh. Glad we could work this out on the talk page first and all. I'll also fix the proseline and some other new issues tomorrow as well. Lara❤Love 08:02, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Stuffs

Commons:Category:Knitted graffiti

Vids Lara❤Love 21:36, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Notability

Notability- does this article meet the standards. I've seen more notable things than this be questioned before. I'm a knitter and I don't really find this notable enough for its own article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.90.155.55 (talk) 02:00, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Sources say yes. Lara❤Love 05:42, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

reported in major Australian newspaper: [1] "The woman who wants to pull wool over our city" Sydney Morning Herald, Tim Elliott, July 7, 2009. David Woodward (talk) 02:55, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

WP:LEAD

Lead/Intro of the article is a tad short. Could be expanded a bit more. Cirt (talk) 19:24, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree it is a little short, but I've seen many articles pass GAC with a lead about that length, some even shorter; so I don't think this is something to worry about too much. Qst (talk) 19:30, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I think it's appropriate for the length of the article, which is very short. It touches on all aspects, I believe. However, if you feel it can be improved, feel free to tweak and expand. Lara❤Love 20:34, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

This article could do with a copyedit

For example sentences like:

• "That is when they thought, "Let's do more.""
• "Knitta even gets a little "hardcore" with ideas like hanging knitted-bagged sneakers over aerial telephone cable."
• "After gaining national exposure, the group decided to hit bigger cities with bigger targets" (hit?)
• "A year later, Knitta was invited to the Los Angeles Standard Hotel, which caters to an edgy clientèle, to..."

Are pretty poor and not what I would expect to see in a GA. I'll fix it up myself if I get the time. -- Naerii 11:50, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Lara❤Love 19:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Suggested merge from yarn bombing

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result was no merge. -- Rob T Firefly (talk) 01:38, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

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Someone placed a mergeto tag on yarn bombing suggesting it be merged into this article, so I shall start the discussion.

• Oppose - Yarn bombing is the generic term for the practice, Knitta is only one group of people who do it. I do not believe a merge is appropriate. Rob T Firefly (talk) 06:30, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Oppose. These are two very different things. Kingturtle (talk) 10:40, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Oppose. Knitta is a group. If "yarn bombing" was a term coined by Knitta, then it would be appropriate to merge into the article. However, this isn't a term even used in conjunction with Knitta. At least not that I've seen. لennavecia 15:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
• Favour. The term "yarn bombing" was apparently coined by Knitta. From http://www.wordspy.com/words/yarnbombing.asp:

  Earliest Citation: There's a subversive group of knitters in Montrose, Texas, ... calling themselves Knitta, that say they "yarn bomb" neighbourhoods... —Kerry MacGregor, "Not your grandma's knitting bee," The Ottawa Citizen, March 11, 2006"

  Hence, since the term originated with K, & the Y-B article is so short, it is appropriate to merge Y-B into K. The issue is more thoroughly covered in the K article. The Y-B article does not add much relevant information. The term "Yarn Bombing" could & should be retained in the Knitta article if merged, a redirect could and should also be added. David Woodward (talk) 02:32, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
• Oppose. Even if members of Knitta coined the term, they're not the only ones who use it or perform it. Darkfrog24 (talk) 03:54, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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