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Old remarks from 2007

why is it called that? - —Preceding unsigned comment added by WillC (talk • contribs)

"The 2005 solo album, Tyranny Souls by Iron Maiden frontman Bruce Dickinson features a track named Kill Devil Hill. The song is a reference to the discovery made by the Wright Brothers." What did the Wright Brothers discover? riffic 17:34, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Wright Brothers discovered how to make an airplane that flies. They did this while on the Kill Devil Hill in 1903. The town was later named for the hill. 65.40.167.169 18:08, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kill Devil Hill is the name of the (now grass covered) sand dune where the obelisk monument at Wright Brothers National Memorial is located. This is one of 3 sand dunes, along with Jockey's Ridge (tallest sand dune on the east coast, and now a state park) and West Hill (not far from Kill Devil Hill), that the Wright Brothers launched GLIDERS from during their visits to the area in 1900, 01, 02 and 03. They flew thousands of glider tests from those sand dunes, and, in 1903, made the first successful flight of a heavier than air craft launched from level ground. The airplane, the one with an engine on it, was not launched from the top of any of the dunes, incluidng Kill Devil Hill. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.235.68 (talk) 09:07, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

seriously, every freaking North Carolina beach article has POV problems and sounds like it was written by a bad travel copy writer. come on, people. encyclopedia, not your tiny town's travel brochure.

i just read it again and this is seriously one of the worst articles i've ever read on wiki. for shame. - —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.106.46.150 (talk • contribs) <!

First flight

Hi! Everywhere I read the first flight was in Kitty Hawk. But the hill, where it happened, is located in Kill Devil Hills. So why is not Kill Devil Hills the place of the first flight? Henning Blatt (talk) 22:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because at that time it was a bunch of hills.- Sinneed

The text is misleading and should be reworked. The first flight didn't "actually take place in Kill Devil Hills" because KDH didn't exist at the time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.3.89.107 (talk) 01:34, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kill Devil Hills was the first town on the Outer Banks to incorporate, in the 1950s. The land within the town limits includes the site of the first flight. When the Wright Brothers were here, pretty much everything between the current towns of Nags Head and Duck was called "Kitty Hawk". Locals do get a lot of tourists asking for directions to "Kitty Hawk", when they are actually asking how to get to the Wright Brothers National Memorial. When locals, in some cases, tell them they're IN Kitty Hawk, because some of them are when they ask, they refuse to believe it. It would be somewhat similar, tho I know this is a bit of a stretch, for people in NYC asking for directions to New Amsterdam. NYC used to have that name, before the English changed it. Calling the location of the first flight by the name it had 100 years ago doesn't help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.139.108.7 (talk) 17:32, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

First Flight High School merge

There is a merge flag there, pointing here, but no discussion section here. Do we really need a discussion? While deletion seems pointless, is there a reason to expect objection to the merge? I would say the redirect page should be semi-protected, or the article will just be recreated by the spammers who have been adding empty sections and minor silliness.- Sinneed 04:19, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I decided to wp:Be Bold and made the redirect. Easily reverted if any disagree.- Sinneed 04:47, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Since my bold redirect was promptly undone and the article damaged, I more-or-less abandoned this idea. With the blocking of several editors, the spam has died down. Any further comment, discussion, or opinion?- Sinneed

Oppose - High schools are considered notable and therefore merit their own page. We redirect elementary and middle schools but not high schools. TerriersFan (talk) 17:45, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - actually there is an AfD practice of strongly discouraging (and closing with "Keep") AfDs for high schools because they are almost always notable, and the AfD wastes everyone's time that could be better spent doing other things for the encyclopedia.- Sinneed 22:35, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support - I don't know about that... the only potential policy saying that high schools are automatically notable was WP:SCHOOL, and it failed. I could be wrong, but I don't believe there is any policy that makes high schools automatically notable. Considering the total lack of content on this page, it would make sense to merge the two articles (and perhaps leave a redirect from the high school to Kill Devil Hills). However, I'll change my vote if it turns out there is a policy that makes high schools automatically notable. --Michaelkourlas (talk) 14:36, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I dropped the merge tag.Sinneed 12:24, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Etymology

This was just added as an External link, because it offers a full story of how Kill Devil Hills got its name:

Story of how Kill Devil Hills got its name (outerbanksdistilling.com)

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Rum... was referred to as “kill-devil.” ...[a popular name] for rum at this time[, the 1650's]. The trade in rum soon expanded to the colonies in New England, which is when the Legend of Kill Devil may have arrived on the Outer Banks through shipwrecks. The more than 1,000 shipwrecks along the Outer Banks have led it to be named “The Graveyard of the Atlantic,” and some of the wreckage contained barrels of rum. The town of Kill Devil Hills is believed to have been named for either barrels of rum of the brand name Kill Devil or for a rum that was “strong enough to kill the devil.” Some believe the ships were lured close to shore on dark nights by a lantern hung from a horse’s (or nag’s) neck and walked along the dunes, causing the ships to wreck on the shallow shoals. This practice gives the adjacent town of Nags Head its name. The story continues with these plundered barrels of rum being hid behind the hill which is now the site of the Wright Brothers Monument. In 1873 the area Lifesaving Station adopted the name Kill Devil Hills followed by the town in 1953.

It would be excellent to have the complete story of the etymology added into the body of the article. So what is needed now are sufficiently strong references. --Concord19 (talk) 15:59, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]