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August 1, 2024Good article nomineeListed

Requested move 23 March 2021

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 16:22, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Key West (Bob Dylan song) → Key West (Philosopher Pirate) – The song's title (as listed on the album sleeve and all digital releases) is "Key West (Philosopher Pirate)". The article was previously titled this, but was moved with no consensus and "clearer dab" left as the bizarre reasoning. "Key West" is simply not the name of the song; the parenthetical is a part of its title. If we're going to start truncating song names, should we also hit Street Spirit (Fade Out) and It's the End of the World as We Know It (And I Feel Fine)? And just to make sure a WP:COMMONNAME argument wouldn't work, I combed through multiple reviews and articles covering the album and they all list the song as "Key West (Philosopher Pirate)". NYT, New Yorker, LA Times, Guardian, NME, Variety, Rolling Stone, Independent, Atlantic, FT, Slate. Οἶδα (talk) 02:46, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

GA Review

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Nominator: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 16:55, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 18:11, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]


  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a. (reference section):
    b. (citations to reliable sources):
    c. (OR):
    d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a. (major aspects):
    b. (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
    b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

I will review this today! --K. Peake 18:11, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

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  • Infobox looks good!
  • Change the opening sentence's introduction to the song on the album to reading as "Bob Dylan, released as the ninth track on his thirty-ninth studio album, Rough and Rowdy Ways (2020)"
  • The lead is somewhat out of order; the ballad sentence should be the one after recording and the high points part should come with the rest of the critical commentary; also, the ballad part is not sourced in the body anywhere
  • "It is a" → "The song is a"
  • Wikilink accordion
  • "for Rough and Rowdy Ways were written" → "for the album were written"

Background and release

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  • Add the exact release date of Rough and Rowdy Ways in prose because this is needed for the release date in the infobox to be sourced
  • Remove overly obvious wikilink on Los Angeles
  • "Tony Garnier and drummer" → "Tony Garnier, and drummer"
  • Wikilink Hammond organ
  • "A bar stool with Bob Dylan's name" → "A bar stool with Dylan's name" on the img text
  • [6] should be re-invoked at the end of the sentences per usage of direct quoting

Critical reception

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  • Retitle to Reception
  • "the best 25 songs of the year." → "the best 25 songs of 2020."
  • "in his praise" but notes that" → "in his praise", but noted how" and put more of this quote into your own words please
  • "and calls it" → "and called it"
  • "which he cites as" → "which he cited as"
  • "Historian Douglas Brinkley, who conducted" → "Brinkley, who conducted"
  • Merge the Spectrum Culture para with the above one and put more of this into your own words; please invoke the ref at the end of any separated sentences using direct quotes
  • "placed it at" → "placed "Key West" at"
  • Merge the last para with the penultimate one
  • Remove wikilink on Rolling Stone
  • "decade"[26] Associated Press writer" → "decade",[26] while the Associated Press writer"
  • The Father John Misty list is not sourced

Cultural references

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  • Maybe introduce him as a US President so it is clearer?
  • The paras seem like too much; there should be two maximum or maybe even one, also could you not merge this and composition since the references are short here?

Live performances

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  • Remove wikilink on Rolling Stone

Accolades

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  • Rolling Stone should only be wikilinked on the first instance here

Notes

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References

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  • Wikilink The New York Times on ref 2
  • Add a work/publisher for ref 3
  • Wikilink Hyperallergic on ref 4
  • glidemagazine.com → Glide Magazine on ref 5
  • I don't think refs 6 and 7 are reliable unless you can clarify otherwise
  • Wikilink Rolling Stone on ref 8
  • Wikilink HuffPost on ref 9
  • Author-link for Rob Sheffield should be on ref 10 instead of refs 11 and 12
  • Ref 13 is a duplicate of ref 4
  • Wikilink The New Yorker and fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 14
  • Wikilink Hot Press on ref 15
  • Cite Gothamist as publisher instead with the wikilink and remove staff from the author on ref 16
  • Wikilink Extra.ie and cite as publisher instead on ref 17
  • Pipe British GQ to GQ on ref 18
  • To me, it looks like a WP:SELFPUB violation on ref 21
  • faroutmagazine.co.uk → Far Out and pipe to Far Out (website) on ref 30
  • Cite AllMusic as publisher instead with the wikilink on ref 31
  • Ref 34 is a duplicate of ref 23

Final comments and verdict

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