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A fact from Kelsie Whitmore appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 9 June 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Kelsie Whitmore was part of the first all-female battery in professional baseball since the All-American Girls Professional Baseball League?

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 01:42, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Kelsie Whitmore was part of the first all-female battery in professional baseball since the All-American Girls Professional Baseball League? Source: [1]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Suluh Indonesia
- Comment: Can I drop "in professional baseball" or does the hook need that?

5x expanded by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 04:06, 3 May 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Its just expanded enough and the article and hook are referenced. The hook is a bit tricky to fathom if you are not a baseball fan e.g. not American. I think the phrase "in a gender-blind team" would get more hits. Sadly no pic athough I have tried to beg one on Flickr (but don't hold your breath). It's neutral and its good to go, but do consider the hook. Surely its the first in co-ed professional baseball ... ever! and she was one of the first ever women players. Your choice. Victuallers (talk) 08:25, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Victuallers, I'm happy to change the hook, but I wasn't quite sure what a better hook would be. First woman to play in the Atlantic League is meh, she already played for Sonoma in 2016... other women have played more recently than the AAPGL and Negro Leagues, like Ila Borders. I'm open to other suggestions and will give it some thought myself. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:33, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'll let you decide - in my non-baseball world ... I was surprised that the American national sport is co-ed (Well done!!)... in the UK there is horse-riding and .... horse-riding. I suspect the average American and the average Wikipedia reader may have differing views on what is new to them. Ayway I'm happy if you decide to make no changes as well. Victuallers (talk) 19:46, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    - Victuallers, she just pitched today, and got a former major leaguer out.[2] Does that make sense to a layperson? Is that interesting enough?

Inaccuracies

The following statements are inaccurate and should be changed:

"In 2016, the Sonoma Stompers of the Pacific Association, an independent baseball league, signed Whitmore and Stacy Piagno; they became the first female teammates in professional baseball since the 1950s when women played in the Negro Leagues." this is inaccurate. The Colorado Silver Bullets had several female teammates, in fact it was an all-female team. Should be clarified.
- In fact I believe this is doubly inaccurate. Julie Croteau and Lee Anne Ketcham were teammates on the Maui Stingrays club in the mid 1990s. [3]. Therapyisgood (talk) 17:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"Whitmore pitched to Anna Kimbrell during a game in 2016, forming the first all-female battery since the All-American Girls Professional Baseball League." this is inaccurate per above. Therapyisgood (talk) 17:22, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]