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Role in Abu Ghraib prison ?

From this article is in unclear how Alexander gained a "star" in his rank following the Abu Ghraib debacle where no information was useful because it was obtained using torture. Does anyone have additional info? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:9:4F00:19:749B:129D:A2D:52DC (talk) 07:47, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Infowars

Is infowars really a good source for a wikipedia article? About the bilderberg group thing.

Copyvio?

This article seems to be an almost exact copy of Alexander's NSA biography, with only minor alterations (such as "LTG Alexander" → "Alexander" in the third-to-last paragraph), thus constituting a potential copyright violation. -David Schaich ^Talk/_Cont 21:57, 31 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

US government created material is in the public domain--Nobunaga24 00:28, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect Unit identification?

I think one unit listed should be 224th MI BN and not "204th MI BN." This may need updating. --No938 (talk) 15:31, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Necessary?

Do we really need to know he attended the Bildergerg group meeting? It seems like it's just for the conspiracy buffs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.22.85.56 (talk) 03:02, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rank

I am not completely familiar with this process, but it seems that when a presidential appointee is confirmed, that person is a promoted immediately. Sources would seem to confirm this, but I am not sure. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/10/AR2010051005251.html Sephiroth storm (talk) 11:11, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RfC: Appelbaum quote

Should we link Appelbaum's quote on Alexander being "the most powerful person"? I say yes, anon IP says no. --Ysangkok (talk) 23:59, 5 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, It is an interesting assertion and sounds logically "true" but Youtube (source here) should not be the sole source for such an assertion. We need some sources considered reliable by Wikipedia editors to add such a powerful assertion. I have not yet seen a Youtube source held up as a reliable source.DonaldRichardSands (talk) 12:45, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No It is an opinion by one person who is not stipulated to be in a position to hold such an opinion, nor in a position for such an opinion to be considered accurate nor widely held. AFAICT, Appelbaum is primarily known as a "hacker" and not an expert in the field of "relative poswer" of individuals. Collect (talk) 12:24, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No per DonaldRichardSands's sound reasoning. However, let me add that, if you can find additional citations and individuals who assert that position, it may be eligible for inclusion. I also commend you for being mature enough to not get into an edit war and going right to RfC despite your argument being with an anonymous IP. Jackson Peebles (talk) 16:45, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Education

This article has made errors about Keith Alexander's master's degree from Boston University. Both his official NSA biography and the Washington Post say that he has a Master of Science (MS) in business administration from Boston University. Wikipedia editors, however, have erroneously referred to his business administration degree as an MBA. Keith Alexander does not have an MBA; he has an MS in business administration.

An MS may suggest his master's in business administration was of shorter duration than an MBA usually takes. For example, many business schools offer MS degrees in management or finance that are one year programs, versus the typical two-year MBA. Alternatively, Boston University may simply have had a different name for their business administration program when Keith Alexander studied there in the late 1970's.

There's nothing wrong with him having an MS instead of an MBA, but we as editors should get the facts right. We should not automatically assume that all master's degrees in business administration are MBA's. --JHP (talk) 03:31, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Marriage

He certainly did not get married in April 1974 or he never would have been allowed to graduate. At West Point, a cadet may not be married or marry until after graduation. In this case, our Class of 1974 graduated on June 5, 1974. He would have to have married on a date after that. Most cadets who have been dating or engaged, get married in the month following graduation. In fact, many of us spent the first few weeks following graduation going from one wedding to another! — Preceding unsigned comment added by RangerJAGC (talk • contribs) 01:54, 15 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Perjury allegations

A previous edit claimed Alexander "confessed to perjury," which is not true. I edited this part out and let the page reflect merely the announcement of his retirement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:8:8C0:37:C52A:5845:341B:2573 (talk) 19:51, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Alan Grayson's accusations against Alexander

I found:

"Former NSA director Keith Alexander may have sold classified info for $1M per month" (Archive). Venture Beat. July 31, 2014.

It discusses Alan Grayson (Democrat Party member of Congress) accusing Alexander. I don't know if this is appropriate for inclusion at this time but if more on this develops it can be discussed in the talk page. WhisperToMe (talk) 11:22, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Any sort of inclusion would have to be done very carefully to avoid WP:BLP violation and to keep WP:NPOV. The manner presented by article title (i.e. "sold classified info") would be extremely biased. Plenty of government/military workers go to the private sector and make more money. Without any evidence of wrongdoing, there is no point discussing this on Wikipedia. Kirin13 (talk) 15:07, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, so I think a "wait and see" approach should be made. If Grayson's accusations turn into nothing, then the accusations should not be posted in the article. If something does happen, then it can be discussed further on this talk page. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:13, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Patent

General (ret) Alexander is co-inventor of the NSA Patent "US 8,898,784 B1, Device for and method of computer intrusion anticipation, detection, and remediation" Source: http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/patog/week47/OG/html/1408-4/US08898784-20141125.html --92.229.139.103 (talk) 20:47, 21 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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