Talk:Kawther Salam

Request for Deletion

I am Kawther Salam, the person about who this article speaks.

The information posted about me is accurate and truthful. What is worrying is that somebody would find grounds to label this short biography as being not being neutral, a ridiculous assumption, which I find to be libellous against the named organizations, namely HRW, IFJ and IPI.

Addition: The information posted by the troll about the named organizations, especially IPI, are false and unkind to say the least.

If the people of the Palestine Wiki Project find the interference by the pro-israeli trolls here to be too much to handle, I offer to host your Wiki project at my site, but you would have to do the moderation. If interested, contact me to speak about details. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.178.161.83 (talk) 22:21, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I therefore ask that this article about me BE DELETED IMMEDIATELY, as I do not wish that my name be used by pro-Israel trolls to give themselves more importance than they have.

I equally ask the moderators that no article about me be published in Wikipedia in the future.

You may confirm my request to my Email address, e-mail removed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.178.161.83 (talk) 22:08, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

POV concerns

There are a number of POV concerns with this article, chiefly the use of Palestinian advocacy organizations as sources to make matter-of-fact claims. I hope to edit the article in accordance with these concerns. The subject's notability must also be determined inasmuch as the subject is covered little, if at all, by mainstream sources.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 04:45, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

What "Palestinian advocacy organizations" are cited as sources for this article? --DieWeisseRose (talk) 03:20, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Lets just take a look at the sources. The first is from the International Press Institute. Next is a piece in the Irish Times about the International Federation of Journalists voicing concern over her treatment by the Israeli government. The last two are from Human Rights Watch. My guess would be an objection to using HRW, which is laughable but lets see what HRW is being used to source. The first source is used for "She has worked for Al-Ittihad, al-Hayat al-Jadida, and Al-Quds Al-Arabi" and "Two incidents of abuse towards Salam were documented in the 2001 Human Rights Watch report, Center of the Storm: a Case Study of Human Rights Abuses in Hebron District." HRW is certainly reliable to be able to say where she worked. It also is reliable to say what report they issued documenting two incidents of abuse. The second HRW source is used for the following: "The Israeli organization, Gush Shalom, published a weekly diary of her experiences in Hebron on its website." If you question the accuracy of that it is easily verifiable (see here). Next it is used for "She also collaborated on three films for Israeli television stations. Salam reported on human rights abuses by the Israeli military, naming particular soldiers, and filing legal complaints against them." Do you question HRW to be able say what she worked on? Finally it is used for "In 2003, Salam was one of 28 writers in 13 countries to receive a Hellman/Hammett Grant from Human Rights Watch 'in recognition of their courage in the face of political persecution.'" HRW is certainly reliable to say who they gave a grant to. nableezy - 04:29, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

The article does not include one source that is reliable. HRW is "Palestinian advocacy organizations" and the most recent incident broke the camel's back. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 06:20, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

The Irish Times is not reliable? HRW watch is not reliable to the point where it cannot be used as a source for what HRW says? The International Press Institute is not reliable? Really? Pray tell, how can that be? Would you care to explain specifically how any source is not being used properly? nableezy - 06:24, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Chill with the theatrics please. The Irish Times seems reliable but the non-linked cite looks like a op-ed, which means we have to know a little more about Deaglan De Breadun. The International Press Institute is not a news source, it's an organization just like Walmart. HRW is a source for what they say, but that's not they are being used in this case. HRW is being used to state things as a matter of fact. That's not halal, kosher, or however you define "no-good". --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 06:30, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

abstract, clearly not an op-ed. What things are being sourced to HRW that are stated as facts that they are not reliable to state as a fact? News sources are not the only reliable sources, in fact they are not anywhere close to the top of the list. nableezy - 06:47, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I think that at this point we can say the following, Brewercrewer will consider any source except the IDF press department or MEMRI as 'Palestinian advocacy organizations'. --Soman (talk) 19:54, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Kawther Salam is not a journalist; she is an advocate with an overt Israel-hating, anti-Semitic agenda. She posts links to crank holocaust deniers on her website, which should be all that anyone needs to know about her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.18.185.105 (talk) 02:00, 18 January 2011 (UTC)