Talk:Katya Adler

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She studied German and Italian as modern languages at the University of Bristol,[3][4][5] where she undertook journalism tasks for The Times, Reuters and Blue Danube Radio.

What are "journalism tasks"? Making tea for reporters? Photocopying press releases? And why did she "undertake" these tasks in Bristol and not elsewhere? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.78.164.90 (talk) 12:02, 30 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Nationality?

There seems to be something of a slow-motion edit war going on over Ms Adler's nationality. I've tried researching this, and there is an article in the 30 June 2019 issue of The Sunday Times Magazine,^[1] which states (emphasis added): "Born in London to German parents, she has a degree in German and Italian, speaks Spanish and French fluently and knows Hebrew and Arabic. She began learning German to understand her mother, who she says would often revert to her native tongue when angry with Adler and her brother."

Meanwhile, in a University of Buckingham interview^[2] on 29 June 2020, cited in the article, she explains (the relevant passage starting at around 14:40 min into the audio) that her parents were German, but naturalised British before she was born.

Both sources seem reliable. One explanation for the apparent contradiction could be that the 'German parents' mentioned in the STM article meant 'parents of German origin', rather than necessarily 'parents of German nationality'. Another possibility is that her parents had dual nationality, ie. were both German and British, when she was born.

Being born to British citizen parents would under most circumstances make the child British also; likewise, being born to German parents would under German nationality law make the child German citizen. However, since we don't know whether her parents did retain their German citizenship, or whether both citizenships were registered for her, and whether either was subsequently relinquished, I think the only thing we know is that we don't know.

Therefore:

In the infobox, I've left the British and German nationality claims there for now, but tagged them as needing citations.
In the lede, I've left the mention of her being a "British journalist", because whether or not she has actual British citizenship, she was born and lives in, and clearly associates closely with, the UK, works internationally representing a British news outlet, etc.
In the 'Early life' section, I've changed the text to say that she was born to "British parents of German origin", because that is what she herself says in the audio interview, and I've cited both the interview and the STM article as sources.

If anyone wishes to dispute this, feel free to do so, but backed up by reliable evidence please. Thanks, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:45, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "The Interview: Katya Adler on how the EU is preparing for Boris Johnson". Sunday Times Magazine. 30 June 2019. Retrieved 11 August 2020.
^ "University of Buckingham fireside talks".{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

Thank you to DoubleGrazing for their considered and well sourced points. I have been undoing the regular edits to the journalist nationality reference, along with comments in the edits. I would welcome some reasoning or sources for the assertion that Adler is a German journalist. Other than having parents who were of German origin, there is no reason to identify her as a German journalist. Rather than go backwards and forwards with undos, let's try and discuss this here. According to evidence from Adler (see source in DoubleGrazing's text above), her parents became British citizens before her birth.

Cornelius7205 (talk) 13:51, 26 December 2020 (UTC)Cornelius7205[reply]

[1] "The Interview: Katya Adler on how the EU is preparing for Boris Johnson". Sunday Times Magazine. 30 June 2019. Retrieved 11 August 2020.

[2] "University of Buckingham fireside talks".{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

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