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There's a detailed page on German Wikipedia. One reason for including Fischer here is thay Fischer is one of only a handful of resistance fighters that, until recently, have still suffered neglect in the wake of WWII on account of having been quashed by not one or two but no the dictatorial systems in Austria, fighting actively against all the of them. He also sprang free the now famous resistance fighter Melanie Berger-Voss (aged 102) from a Nazi prison in France - disguised as Gestapo police. To me there is little doubt that Fischer deserves an English entry as he was exemplary in his principled approach an uncompromising path to restore justice and did make a difference for democratic Austria. MinTrouble (talk) 18:16, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MinTrouble: Thank you very much for creating the article on Karl Fischer!
Unfortunately, there are some serious errors in the current version of the article that need to be corrected. As my English is not good enough for this (I am Austrian), I would ask you to make these absolutely necessary corrections yourself!
1) The lady mentioned in the text who was freed is called Mélanie Berger-Volle today (Volle! Not Voss!), at the time of her Liberation only Melanie Berger ('e' in Melanie! Not 'é'!).
2) Karl Fischer did not free Melanie Berger himself! He had already been in prison in Paris since 15 September 1943, so he could not be personally involved in the liberation of Melanie Berger that took place on 15 October 1943 by a group of other Revolutionary Communists of Austria, consisting of Ignaz Duhl, Gustav Gronich, Lotte Israel, Georg Scheuer and an unknown soldier of the German Wehrmacht!
Therefore the section 'Freeing Mélanie Berger' should be deleted (or you correct this section according to the information that can be found in the articles about Karl Fischer and Mélanie Berger-Volle in the German Wikipedia and rename the heading), as the information it contains, with the exception of the first sentence and the significance of Melanie Berger as a resistance fighter, is incorrect! The first sentence in turn is a duplication, as this is already mentioned at the beginning of the article.
3) Fischer cannot be considered as one of the forefathers of the Austrian Social Democratic Party; he only became a member of this party in 1955!
Dear Dnalor, thanks for your feedback. Please feel free to make the changes you suggest, with the necessary documentation of course. It strikes me, judging from your message to me, that your English is better than that of many of us here on en.wikipedia, so please don't be shy. I'll see what I can correct without the necessary source material from your suggestions. Note: a "forefather" is not a "founding father", but I'll see if I can find a better term. From what I was able to tell, Fischer takes an important place in the group constructions of younger, anti-fascist social democrats, as suggested in the source given. If you're in the position to translate the material from de.wikipedia, your assistance would be much appreciated. You seem to be perfectly positioned to do so. MinTrouble (talk) 01:16, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MinTrouble: Hello and thank you for your reply and the changes you have already made in response to my request! I have since added a short section on the posthumous honouring of Fischer and his mother with the relevant web evidence because I think this is important. I have also added a section on selected further reading.
Thanks also for your words about my English! Of course a translation of the de.wikipedia article would be perfect, but I'm not in a position to do that. Unfortunately it's far too difficult for me. Dnalor 01 (talk) 08:14, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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