Talk:Karan Aujla

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Karan aujla & Sidhumoosewala have highest Instagram hashtags in Indian music industry

Youtube interview

@Cyphoidbomb: Sir, can this YouTube video be used as a reliable source? The channel is not verified. Kindly help. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:49, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Not verified so what, this his own interview we see his face clearly. Mohitdeep Singh Jawandha (talk) 12:13, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

We don't use potential copyright violations as references. That's what the concern is. @Fylindfotberserk: I'm not quite sure how to handle this. I'll see if anyone at the Help Desk has any ideas. Feel free to participate if you so wish. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:55, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

This is the original TV channel and there are no chance of copyright violations. Mohitdeep Singh Jawandha (talk) 02:30, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

@Mohitdeep Singh Jawandha: If it is not a verified channel, there is absolutely a chance of it being a copyright violation. That's why major outlets have verified channels, so you know you're dealing with the correct one. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:59, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: Sir, I believe, if the YouTube video has the potentiality to violate copyright then we should remove it since the other in.com source here supports all the content the former was supporting. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 06:46, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: If you've found another source that says the same thing you wanted to get from the video, then yes, absolutely use that. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:38, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: Actually the source is already present in the article. There are two sources, this one and the YT one which supports the same content. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:46, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Nationality

He is Canadian citizen as well Punjabi Singer should be mentioned instead of Indian. Mohitdeep Singh Jawandha (talk) 12:16, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

@Mohitdeep Singh Jawandha: No, we shouldn't ignore the fact that he's Indian. See Akshay Kumar as an example: "Kumar...is an Indian born Canadian actor". What would make sense here is: "Karan Aujla is an Indian born Canadian singer, rapper and lyricist, known for his work in [[Punjabi language|Punjabi]]-language music." Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:15, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb:, :@Mohitdeep Singh Jawandha: The subject is NOT a Canadian Citizen. He only has a Permanent Residence status which is different than Citizenship as per [1]. His PR status in Cananda is supported by this. My point is a person without Citizenship be treated as Canadian in Wikipedia since he/she is still an Indian citizen as per the following excerpt:

Canadian permanent residents do not get a Canadian passport. If permanent residents want to travel outside the country, they can do so on a valid PR card, or on a Permanent Resident Travel Document (PRTD), and their passport from their country of citizenship.

PR cards have a validity period, so they have to be renewed regularly. However, you do not automatically lose your permanent resident status if your PR card expires. To maintain your permanent resident status, you do need to meet certain residency requirements.

I believe the lede should only mention his Indian citizenship. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 06:59, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

If he is not a Canadian Citizen, then I agree he should not be called Canadian, and yes, his Indian citizenship/nationality should be mentioned as per our norms. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:37, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: OK then, I'll remove the Canadian part. I've already added that he has a Canadian PR in the article body. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:45, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Aujla is Canadian citizen with Indian descent. see 1 and 2 @Mohitdeep Singh Jawandha@Fylindfotberserk@ TheDarkKnightGotham (talk) 18:08, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Real Name

I've removed his full name as per WP:PRIVACY since it is not widely published. In this edit, he was named as Karandeep Singh Aujla as well while referencing this. So there is confusion regarding his real name - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:07, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

I wrote Tarandeep before by mistake. Mohitdeep Singh Jawandha (talk) 11:01, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

But his real name, whatever it is, is not widely published. See if you can find sources from mainstream media. "ghaintpunjab" wouldn't work since both ghaintpunjab and in.com seem to be a copy of eachother. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:18, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: What about this source. Check description. He has been credited for lyrics, composer, and songwriter as "Jaskaran Singh Aujla".SangrurUser (talk) 14:58, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

@SangrurUser: The description uses "Jaskaran Singh Aujla" for lyrics, composer, and songwriter, but just above, it writes "Yaarian Ch Medal · Karan Aujla · Deep Jandu". Two different names makes less explicit. Here or in any of his verified social account, if he writes his full name, it will be OK by me. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:25, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk:Could you check this source.SangrurUser (talk) 01:05, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

@SangrurUser: Doesn't look reliable for a BLP. The About Us section doesn't mention anything about the editors/journalists. Not giving much of a confidence as far as editorial oversight is concerened. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 05:42, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2019

Date of Birth of Karan Aujla is "18 January 1997" 106.78.90.72 (talk) 04:19, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. NiciVampireHeart 10:35, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

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Missing

Article missing the most important thing "Rivalry between him and Sidhu" [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2402:8100:3973:ED7D:65F:4C7D:BFB1:4AA1 (talk) 09:09, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Discography section

@SangrurUser: Hi, since you have created Karan Aujla discography article, it would be wise to remove redundant content from this article i.e. removal of table from Karan Aujla#Discography section and keeping only the {{main|Karan Aujla discography}} template as in Akshay Kumar#Filmography. --Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:00, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk:Some songs are still missing, one i verify and add all songs i would remove this myself:)SangrurUser (talk) 01:07, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

@SangrurUser: OK. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:51, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Image

@SangrurUser: Hi. Shouldn't the new image of Aujla live performing be in the article body instead of the infobox. The older one, portrait looked suitable for the infobox. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:52, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk:I just added the new picture in infobox due to quality and looks as he doesn’t wear cap and had monkey on his shoulder usually. You should do whatever seems suitable.SangrurUser (talk) 15:05, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

@SangrurUser: While you are right about the cap thing, the new image has shadows, is in red and the mic he's holding is also blocking the view. I'm moving it to the section, for now till we find a nice new image. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:47, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Expanding the lead

@Fylindfotberserk:Hi there, i have expanded the article. It would be really helpful if you could expand lead section and rewrite to remove those templates as i am unable to choose what would be perfect for lead. Thanks.SangrurUser (talk) 11:19, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

@SangrurUser: Regarding the two tags at the top, the "lead Too Short" seems logical. But since the article isn't that large, we wouldn't need a huge-ass lead. 2-3 lines would do IMO. For starters, we can add Aujla's names of his most successful songs as well as awards and nominations, if he had received any. That would be good to go. As for the "Rewrite" tag, the article was much simpler when the tag was placed [3]. Even now, a little bit of Coopyedit would do it just fine, especially the "Early life and career" section. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:31, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

== Source for age

@Fylindfotberserk: Hi there, can we use this source for his age as this comes from Speed Records. The source mentions his age to be 23.SangrurUser (talk) 04:50, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

@SangrurUser: "23 saal di umar vich..". It is a verified YT account of a notable music company. Seems OK to me. We can combine the two to get to a proper DoB. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 06:10, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: Thanks, i an adding this to article.SangrurUser (talk) 06:29, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Early Song Writing Career

Karan Aujla started writing songs as early as the age of 12. He says that his father used to write songs which is most likely why he thinks he had a natural talent for this.

Semi-protected edit request on 19 December 2020

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 Not done Empty request. Teh request should be of the format "please change X to Y". - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:24, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 June 2021

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Semi-protected edit request on 28 November 2021

I want to change the name from karna aujla to sidhu moosewala 2409:4055:4E8F:BD5F:E5D:B546:48DF:1028 (talk) 02:26, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  melecie  t - 02:30, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 December 2021

Jordan Choudhary (talk) 14:30, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Karan Aujla is also known as Geetan Di Machine.

JUST ADDING MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THERE NEW CARRIER Jordan Choudhary (talk) 14:31, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:49, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

MAKING MEMORIES ASAP THIS MONTH 125.62.127.135 (talk) 04:34, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

SACHIN HERE 125.62.127.135 (talk) 04:44, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Nationality 2

@TheDarkKnightGotham: Coming from the consensus above, it was proven that he had a Canadian PR and not a Canadian citizenship, hence 'Indian' was used for the lead sentence per MOS:CITIZEN. Find an explicit source which mentions that he has Canadian leadership or an interview. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:36, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Do not remove longstanding sources just because you do not like it. It was part of the Network 18, a mas media agglomeration. Also do not abuse Wikipedia policies for your own POV. That site and source was allowed by an admin, as I already said. Unless it gets flagged at WP:RSP, which wasn't the case, find something solid. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:56, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Aujla is Canadian citizen with Indian descent. see 1 and 2 @Mohitdeep Singh Jawandha@Fylindfotberserk@ TheDarkKnightGotham (talk) 18:08, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

@TheDarkKnightGotham: I copied your comments here in the new section. I don't see any of the sources talking about their citizenship here. Do you see anything like that @Gotitbro:? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:17, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Artist likeDosanjh, Arjan are Indian artists. whereas Sidhu, Shubh, are all Indian artist with PR of different countries (i.e. they are NRIs). Now artists like Karan Aujla, AP Dhillon, Gurinder Gill, Ikky and Jonita Gandhi are all Canadians as per WP:Independent Rolling Stone [4] and Billboard Canada 2. Daredevil5911 (talk) 05:17, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

I don't think those articles are enough. There are sources that mention them as "Punjabi artists taking Canada by storm" or something like that. We need explicit evidence on his 'citizenship' per MOS:CITIZEN. One thing we can do is keep the 'Indian' part as it is and append an extra info on him being settled in Canada. Pinging @Gotitbro: for suggestions. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:56, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Considering explicit residency refs that were provided before, explicit citizenship refs would also be needed here. Stories in Billboard covering diasporic music are not that (including its rehash in Rolling Stone), but it is good enough for mentioning "based in Canada" and the like in the lead. Gotitbro (talk) 11:15, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

3rd paragraph of Billboard Canada states Three of the top 10 tracks in India in 2022 were made by Canadian artists. Also the heading of both Billboard and Rolling Stone India says "Diaspora Canadian Artist". At present he is a Canadian with Indian nationality, It would be good if we mention Canadian along a note about his past citizenship in the lead itself. And only present status in short description. TheDarkKnightGotham (talk) 20:01, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Still we don't have a source that explicitly mentions his citizenship. The sources here is good enough to add "based in Canada" or a similar iteration as explained by Gotitbro. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 20:07, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

That is not what I would call an explicit discussion of citizenship, it is a descriptive use case (here generic as well covering multiple people). Take the case of Russell Crowe, who has been described as "Australian" in multiple general reference sources but sources which clearly delve into his citizenship note that he has never held that citizenship. Gotitbro (talk) 20:15, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

New Album Released ' Street Dreams ' with Divine

Karan Aujla Release His Latest Album Street Dreams in 2024 with dhh artist @divine Jitendra Kumar Bajiya (talk) 06:46, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Citizenship of karan aujla

Proof that Karan Aujla is a Canadian citizen. Karan aujla had done an interview from connect fm. So I am well suited to it. Also creative events Australia who organized the tours in Karan aujla, told me that karan aujla is a Canadian citizen. I even have a video of him with his Canadian passport in his hand. If proof is not enough for you, I will provide it to you. Shubh is also a Canadian citizen Cleandaa (talk) 14:16, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Is he leaving Canada? Please post the video you have. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:43, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

He was at the airport.

[5]https://www.facebook.com/reel/1196664058036593

[6]https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9Fe3sDyFzi/

Also creative events austrlia told me that he is a Canadian citizen Cleandaa (talk) 16:00, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

I don't see much in the video besides him holding something that looks like a passport. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:15, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

I can put the photos while zooming in on the passport which looks Canadian. How do you put photos? In addition to that, connect fm also says that he is a Canadian citizen. Connect fm interviewed Karan. Connect FM is 100% reliableaujla Cleandaa (talk) 17:19, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Umm. doesn't look reliable [7], no info about journos and editors. If possible, the subject can declare about his citizenship publicly in his official handles. Will serves as WP:PRIMARY. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:35, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Instead, in 2019 he was in Australia at the airport, about to leave, he was at the e-gates, so he had a passport with a microchip. India since August that has started to give passports with microchips. Cleandaa (talk) 13:31, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

These are circumstantial evidences, see WP:OR. We need explicit sources WP:V. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:50, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

If you want by email I can send you the photo of his passport while he is holding it in his hand Cleandaa (talk) 15:49, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm not a reliable source either. So even if I get an email and confirm it, it will not be applicable here since someone else may challenge it. So if you know the subject, ask him to post a photo of his passport with a caption that he is a Canadian citizen in his 'official social media handle'. Though WP:SPS, I believe we may add it if that image is verifiable. And if further discussion is required, we may continue from there. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:56, 17 October 2024 (UTC)