Talk:KTSF

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Programming

Shouldn't it be mentioned the specific programming on this station? Filipino programming includes shows aired on The Filipino Channel such as TV Patrol, which is on weeknights at 6:00pm and Maalaala Mo Kaya Saturdays at 11:00am. Also, the California Music Channel airs at 4:00pm on weekdays. I believe that used to be/is still hosted by KMEL radio personality Chuy Gomez, but I haven't watched that since a few years back. --Geopgeop 02:26, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

History

KTSF began it's first Cantonese nightly news broadcast at 9 pm on February 6, 1989. The broadcast was a half hour long on each weekend. This was the first locally produced Cantonese newscast in the United States. [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.18.219.138 (talk) 03:23, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

More History

I was a former employee there from 1985 to 1991; KTSF administrative offices were once located at the China Basin Building in San Francisco which was a decade before the first shovel hit the ground for the building of the current Giants ballpark in 1997. The station's offices moved to Brisbane in 1987 (the transmitter was however still atop Mt. San Bruno). I can recall that one of the guests for one of the 'house' Chinese shows on KTSF was Jackie Chan who was a few years from hitting it big in the United Stares. They also offer at the time - religious programming such as Bakker, Swaggart which ran in the mornings before they were disgraced. The Merv Griffin show ran in the afternoons in 1986 and also the station had music videos during the mid-afternoon (The California Music Channel). KTSF also ran NWA wrestling for a year (which later became WCW). The ethnic programming was rather diverse ranging from Portuguese, Italian, and Greek to Indian, Vietnamese, Arabic, Iranian, Chinese, Filipino, Korean and Japanese. The former slogan of the station was KTSF "Your Window To The World." After I left KTSF in 1991 - I actually worked for one of those ethnic shows subcontracted to the station and that's the during time when the Iron Chef TV show made its American debut....

06:41, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

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Japanese Programming

KTSF appears to no longer air any Japanese programming on any of their channels. FCI Morning Eye on weekdays and Sunday night TTV have not aired on KTSF's main channel for several years; I believe they switched to one of the subchannels at some point but I cannot confirm when this happened and when it stopped, and according to the website each of the subchannels now carries a different ethnic network. Saturday airings of Fuji TV ceased after March 29, 2014, with a simple graphic stating, "Tonight's programming marks the end of Fuji TV's broadcasting. We wish to thank you for many years of viewership." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.157.74.13 (talk) 17:37, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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November 2023

@Sammi Brie: This article needs a lot of work. Lots of cruft, original research, parts of it being promotional. (Yeah, getting Chinese-language sources can be challenging.) You also may need to talk to @Akandkur: about their edits, here and elsewhere (mainly Bay Area TV articles). Mvcg66b3r (talk) 04:38, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:KTSF/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 16:57, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: DoctorWhoFan91 (talk · contribs) 08:02, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take this one. Expect initial remarks in 24-48 hours. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 08:02, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Will go section by section.

Lead

All good

Info-box

~~Affliations: No comma?~~
- The length of the words (and unfortunately the double link) results in it seeming like two affiliations. It isn't.

Sub-channels

~~Is RabbitEars reliable?~~
- See Talk:KLKN/GA1
Former ref looks incomplete, mention RabbitEars? Done
- probably publisher/work/ebsite= RabbitEars?
  - Oh, the KDTV ref was missing metadata. Did not see that.
~~Is there a need to mention KDTV-DT?~~
- Very much so! They literally share a transmitter.
  - Not channels or ownership or anything relevant to subchannels though?
    - I'm not going to get into this debate because that's a topic-level thing. There isn't anything else shared, but the way I had things (which might have quelled your concern) was unfortunately replaced because a user took an idea I had for more closely related pairs and brought it here. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      - Hmm, I checked; revoking remark (not that it matters, but the other way is better than the current one)

Construction

but its assets were purchased in late 1963.: by who and why if they were trying to set something up themself? Done
- They drop off the radar. Their Dallas station never went forward, either. I think their business model would have been an utter dud (I wrote a bit more about it in KMPX).
  - So the assets were purchased back or reverted or something? Or did Television SF bought them?
    - Completely unrelated. There's no connection at all. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:40, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      - Mention that, bcs it reads like TV SF purchased them
        Done. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:23, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Television San Francisco, ... granted on November 29, 1966.[6]: Would read better if reworded into a single sentence Done
- Shuffled the word order here. Comments to here: Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:11, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Early years and subscription television

the show, Your Business World: was it the only thing broadcasted, bcs it reads like that Done
- During the day, yes. All the coverage makes it seem like it was one longform program. This makes sense given the genre (business news throughout the trading day). Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:24, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I edited the article to split 2 paragraphs into 4, feel free to revert if you like

News operation

~~are these the only significant things that happened between 1993-present? expand if there is anything~~
- I didn't see anything when I did the initial research, frankly. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:27, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Growing Asian Programming

All good

References and Images

~~Can one or two more images be added?~~
- @DoctorWhoFan91: When I do TV stations, I also do a check in Commons and Flickr to see if there are any free-use images. The only one I found was File:Maya Gilliss-Chapman at KTSF.jpg, which is more of a headshot of the guest and not an image showing station activity. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 15:38, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spot-check

Checking every 8th ref in general

Ref-1: 37511 KTSF
Ref-9: permit has been held for years ... lies fallow
Ref-17: Fuji Television ... reappeared on local airwaves ... KTSF-TV Channel 26.
Ref-25: event transpired on August 12
Ref-33: hodge-podge combination
Ref-42: moved ... dropped former station
Ref-49: advertising and viewing boycott
Ref-57: ... has died. She was 93.
Ref-64: KTSF 37511 San Francisco ... Jun 26 2009
Ref-74: TV MASS CATHOLIC MASS
Ref-80: 240,000 viewers an evening

Overall

Only some minor issues from what I have checked, and similarly for the part I have only skimmed yet. Will add the rest of the remarks later? Well-written article Sammi Brie, should pass easily. Keep up the good work!. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 19:35, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Replied, Sammi Brie, will add remarks later. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 05:25, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Added some more remarks, Sammi Brie. A few headings are left, which I'll review tomorrow. A very well-written article, it seems easily be on the way to passing to GA. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 18:59, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sammi Brie, review done, just one minor issue remains, plus I need to do a deeper spot check, which I will do in a few hours. Going to pass the article after it's done. Well done! DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 14:48, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sammi Brie, did the spot-check, and everything checks out. Passing to GA, very well-written, informative and focused article. Congratulations, very well done, keep up the good work! DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 19:00, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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