Talk:JustGiving

Excessive fees

I'm slightly skeptical of Justgiving's business model. I suspect the main author of this article Guernica79 is a Justgiving employee given that they have only contributed to this article, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Guernica79

This article fails to discuss the DISADVANTAGES of Justgiving.

``Justgiving charges a 5% transaction fee on donations made through its website. But since it automatically reclaims 28% Gift Aid on all donations from UK Taxpayers, the charity ends up receiving almost 120% of the value of the original donation after the deduction of fees.[3]"

This is marketing spiel. If I were to collect donations myself, it would also be possible to collect gift aid. Thus, by using justgiving I am depriving my charity of 5% of the donation each time!!

Also the figure seem slightly bizarre... £100 donation less 5% transaction fee = £95 + 28% = £121.6. £121.6 is not `almost 120%' it is `over 120%.'

Furthermore ``Charities have to be registered with Justgiving to receive donations. Charities could initially register with Justgiving for free, but on 1 April 2002 the company introduced subscription fees of £15 per month for charities using its website." Thus charities are required to pay £180 a year... Okay, this seems relatively low, but Justgiving already make a significant profit with their 5% transaction charge.

Well, there're other excellent for-profit fundraising companies to choose, like World Wide Charity. They charge some fee from each donation, but they dont' require any subscription fee. Which means you need pay nothing if you haven't receive donation. And since it's located in Switzerland, the tax deduction is near zero. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.222.37.21 (talk) 08:01, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

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6th Jan 2013 Clean Up

Moved from JustGiving to Talk page due to Spamy, Out of Scope Nature &/or Lacking Citations

* In 2012 UK-based YouTube media group "The Yogscast" raised £201,180 during the month of December by livestreaming video game "let's plays" on twitch.tv to raise money for Oxfam's Plan Bee.

Rename

I suggest the page be renamed to "JustGiving" instead of JustGiving being a redirect to "Justgiving". -- 109.76.224.250 (talk) 18:36, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

(belated, for the record:) Nope. WYSIWYG. Not going to happen. Per MoS, for consistency and an encyclopedic style, despite styling/branding (upper/lower/camelcase), proper spelling with leading capital is used to create entry in Article space with a re-direct from improper/misspelt/alternative variations as necessary. WurmWoode^T 22:28, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

@WurmWoode: Wrong, both spellings can be used and JustGiving would indeed be preferred as it reflects general usage and trademark, see MOS:CAMELCASE. — kashmiri ^TALK 21:46, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

some reorganisation

I am going to reorganise a few things. Here is what and why:

1) Delete from under "reception" the sentence that says:

"Charityfacts states that fundraising typically costs UK charities between 15% to 25%,[13] however, because JustGiving are an e-commerce company their overhead costs are likely to be lower than a traditional bricks and mortar charity.[14]"

It does not seem to be directly relevant to how Justgiving have been received. Rather, it seems to have been put in with the intent of putting the 5% Justgiving fee into context, but it is a flawed comparison because "fundraising costs" would include things other than donation processing, such as organising fundraising events and maintaining contact with supporters, and in any case the article is not the place to speculate on why the fees are set at the level they are.

2) Move various references to fees that do not directly relate to the sections that they are listed under into a new separate section about fees.

3) Likewise consolidate references to Gift Aid into a new separate section.

4) Remove some duplication that becomes apparent when consolidating stuff.

5) And also remove the section heading "Fundraising Tools", which is left with no remaining content under it after doing the above.

6) Finally, what this leaves under "Products" (outside of subsections) is a sentence about small charities benefitting the most. It turns out that this is said by the CAF. Moving it to the Reception section to accompany the existing CAF quotation. I then remove the (slightly confusing) "Products" section heading, and turn any subsections (===) into sections (==).

Money money tickle parsnip (talk) 12:18, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

fees

Given that the fees are a noteworthy issue - see particularly the bit that says In 2008, The Guardian reported Kharas as acknowledging that "the commission charged by justgiving.com is controversial".[3] - I think it is reasonable to state what the fees actually are in order to put this into context. However, now that I have created a section about the fees, I think it is excessive to repeat information about fees in other sections as well. I therefore removed discussion of fees from the section on gift aid processing. Hope this is fair.

Money money tickle parsnip (talk) 18:01, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

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Some proposed changes

Information to be updated in Fees section: JustGiving removed its 5% platform fee in March 2019. Donors are instead asked whether they would like to make a voluntary contribution to support the operation of JustGiving’s platform.
Explanation of issue: Information about JustGiving's fees is out of date.
References supporting change:
- Company announcement: https://blog.justgiving.com/platform-fee-free/
- Media coverage: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/justgiving-platform-fee-charity-donation-uk-a8839871.html and https://fundraising.co.uk/2019/03/26/justgiving-ends-platform-fees-for-uk-charities/

Information to be updated in JustTextGiving section: After eight years on JustGiving, JustTextGiving by Vodafone was deactivated in April 2019 after seeing a decline in the use of the service from 2014 onwards.
Explanation of issue: Information about the JustTextGiving service is out of date
References supporting change:
- Company announcement: https://www.vodafone.co.uk/help-and-information/just-text-giving and https://help.justgiving.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000579597-We-re-saying-goodbye-to-JustTextGiving
- Media coverage: https://www.civilsociety.co.uk/news/justtextgiving-donation-service-will-close-next-year.html

Information to be updated in Reception section: In 2017, JustGiving won Most Committed Company to the Sector at IoF National Fundraising Awards
Explanation of issue: Additional award/recognition received
References supporting change: https://www.institute-of-fundraising.org.uk/news/iof-national-fundraising-awards-winners/

Salleeann (talk) 10:52, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Reply 16-JAN-2020

  Edit request partially implemented  

1. Y The fee being made voluntary was added to the article.
2. Y The section on JustTextGiving was omitted.
3. N The award was not added because it does not appear to be independently notable in Wikipedia.

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Regards,  Spintendo  18:34, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Fees

They now charge 17% fee automatically 81.77.233.120 (talk) 10:20, 13 November 2024 (UTC)