Talk:Joseph M. Reagle Jr.

In need of update/correction

This page is inaccurate, dated, and in need of updates and extensions. I provide information for such work in User:Reagle/Bio-factoids. A lot of material could be ported from there. In any case here's two X to Y transformations on the most egregious problems:

Change: "Good Faith Collaboration (2012)" to "Good Faith Collaboration (2010)"

Change: "Joseph Michael Reagle Jr. is an American academic and author focused on technology and Wikipedia. He is Assistant Professor of Communication Studies at Northeastern University, and a faculty associate at Harvard University's Berkman Center for Internet and Society." to "Joseph Reagle is an American academic and author focused on technology and culture, including Wikipedia. He is an Associate Professor of Communication Studies at Northeastern University (2011-). He has worked at the World Wide Web Consortium (at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, 1996-2003) and has twice been in a Resident Fellow at the Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society (at Harvard University, 1998 and 2010)."

-Reagle (talk) 21:23, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Reply 28-JUN-2019

  Reference requested  

• Change x to y is a good way to start with suggesting edit requests, but I've found that those two parts of information in some cases can be incomplete. When references are required, the better way of requesting changes would be to state them in the form of "Change x to y using z".

Change x to y using z

x A verbatim description of the old text to be removed from the article (if any) y A verbatim description of the new text to be added to the article (if any) z A reference which verifies the requested change Example edit request: Please change: The Sun's diameter is 25 miles. ↑ This is x ↑ to read as: The Sun's diameter is 864,337 miles. ↑ This is y ↑ using as a reference: Harinath, Paramjit (2019). The Sun. Academic Press. p. 1. ↑ This is z ↑

• The reference missing from your request above is one covering the claim that the subject worked at the World Wide Web Consortium (at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, 1996-2003). The best type of reference for this work information would ideally come from the organization itself. Thus, if you could provide a reference for this, it would be most appreciated. Kindly open a new edit request at your earliest convenience when ready to proceed.
  

Regards,  Spintendo  18:04, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Notes

Spintendo, the two claims I make above are fully substantiated on User:Reagle/Bio-factoids. Did you consult that? It has many other claims, their Web sources, as well as easy to use citation templates for updating the selected bibliography. -Reagle (talk) 20:57, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

The claim in the proposed lead section discussing the subject's work at the Consortium differs from the claim in the already-established main section of text discussing this same work. The claim in the proposed lead section includes a date span, whilst the claim in the main body of text does not. The reference provided with the claim in the main body of text does not specify the subject's end-date of involvement with the Consortium. Thus, for the claim in the proposed lead section to be added, a reference must be provided indicating the end date. That reference needs to be provided here on the talk page. When ready to proceed with the requested information, kindly change the {{request edit}} template's answer parameter to read from |ans=yes to |ans=no. Thank you!

Regards,  Spintendo  04:44, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

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References

Drafted replacement

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Since I wasn't getting anywhere with having easily fixed errors corrected, I've rewritten the article. Others can edit or comment on that, or confirm and copy the prose over, in whole or in part. -Reagle (talk) 13:17, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Please use the X to Y format, it is hard to see what is different, editors (like me) probably won't read through the entire article switching back and forth between the versons (I know I won't). X to Y will go much faster.  Darth Flappy ^«Talk» 23:20, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Hi DarthFlappy! The article needs a rewrite, it has many errors, the prose is janky, and the citations suck. I've made it more accurate, improved the prose, and increased and standardized all citations (e.g., moved to List-defined style with good ref names). You can see the differences at the compare tool. If {{request edit}} can't use that (and only do piecemeal replacements), can you suggest aanother process that reviews rewrites? -Reagle (talk) 00:59, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Great article! I can see why you want a rewrite, and it didn't seem like an advert. However it does have one (big) issue: Almost all of your citations are primary. The only ones that dosen't seem to be primary is this one that is 404, and this one which I looks ok to me. Thanks for showing the compare tool, and great work on the article, but you need secondary reliable sources!  Darth Flappy ^«Talk» 20:04, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

DarthFlappy, with respect to dates I've been at organizations, I've replaced the links to my (always up to date) website with the links to (stale) organizations' pages. I added a few other secondary sources I've also fixed the TR35 link. Someone could plumb my dozens of media appearences or the reviews of my books [1][2][3] for more, but I'm just trying to replace the awful version that's there. I think my proposal is much better on that front. -Reagle (talk) 15:21, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Looking at WP:Primary, I think I was a bit harsh about secondary sources so I added your Education section. I'll leave the rest for someone else.  Darth Flappy ^«Talk» 22:43, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

DarthFlappy, I appreciate the gesture and effort, but there's broken refs now. In my version, I made Nissenbaum a link, so you could port the whole thing over if you want. 😊 -Reagle (talk) 15:55, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

I think I fixed the refs. As for moving all of your draft over, there others sections that I didn't add. I'll leave it for other editor.  Darth Flappy ^«Talk» 18:16, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Reify-tech, thanks for the tweaks to Joseph M. Reagle Jr.. I've been trying to get that article help for years but I can't fix it myself. After much frustration, my latest effort was to simply to draft a replacement User:Reagle/sandbox/Joseph M. Reagle Jr. and hope someone ports it over. It looks like you've done a few tweaks to the live article (perhaps using the sandbox?), which I've incorporated into the version in the sandbox. -Reagle (talk) 20:56, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Jerodlycett, thanks for the <br/> tweaks to (the out of date) Joseph M. Reagle Jr., I've ported them to the improved version in my sandbox that I hope someone will replace the (broken) live version with. -Reagle (talk) 13:16, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

 Reviewing... {{reply to|Can I Log In}}'s talk page! 17:29, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

References

External link outdated

I just noticed (2 years later) that 0mtwb9gd5wx added an external link to an archive of my webpage from when I was at MIT in the 90s. I'm not sure why that was added; if such a link is to be used, it should be the up to date version at https://reagle.org/joseph . -Reagle (talk) 21:30, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

With some hesitation (but waiting 2 months), I've gone and changed it myself since @0mtwb9gd5wx seems to have gone inactive. Reagle (talk) 18:44, 4 April 2024 (UTC)