Talk:John Walsh (filmmaker)
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Major Edit
[edit]Per WP:BOLD I made some major changes to this page that couldn't be adequately explained in the edit summary.
- I removed ALL external links that were internally in the article main space. That's not appropriate for Wikipedia.
- I removed ALL promotional language.
- I put a notice at the top noting that this article uses few to no sources.
- I added sources where I could, and added "citation needed" tags where I knew they were needed.
- I weeded out social media pages and random interviews from the External Links section.
Clearly this article needs yet more work to be any good, but at least now the promo issues are gone and the citation issues are duly noted. Luthien22 (talk) 22:21, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
ToryBoy Sources
[edit]Anybody who's interested in adding these into the article, feel free. Luthien22 (talk) 04:20, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/features/letters/9117596.Tory_boy/ http://digitaljournal.com/blog/11509
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Original resesarch
[edit]This article is filled with what Wikipedia defines as original research - see WP:OR. In particular, it is heavily reliant on primary sources - see WP:USEPRIMARY. Wikipedia policy is "Do not base an entire article on primary sources, and be cautious about basing large passages on them... Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from reliable secondary sources." Although it is legitimate to use primary sources to evidence facts, it constitutes original research There are very few secondary sources cited in this article, and those that are not particularly reliable. Secondary sources are advised to ensure the notability of the information, as well as its accuracy. I added OR tags to some of the claims made in the article and these were removed with explanations such as "original and reliable research already provided by original citation", suggesting he does not really understand Wikipedia policy, which is against original research. I won't restore all the tags, but urge this article's main editor to acquaint himself with Wikipedia policy. As this is a biography of a living person (BLP), he should particularly acquaint himself with BLP policy, which urges particular caution about using primary sources (WP:BLPPRIMARY) and self-published sources (WP:BLPSPS). BobFromBrockley (talk) 10:25, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
Two sections removed
[edit]I have just removed 2 sections as inappropriate. See my edit summaryAineireland (talk) 00:46, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Aineireland These were replaced by RichardLyons74 (who seems to have access to the article subject's CV) with no discussion here. I have radically trimmed rather than removed again, but I think this should go unless there are any compelling arguments for. BobFromBrockley (talk) 22:32, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
Querying Revert
[edit]In regard to the revert of 21 February by RichardLyons74, I have to question its propriety. I notice that the editor has never edited anything else but the page of John Walsh or extremely closely related matters. This surely indicates a NPOV problem. I have regretfully to consider that a misuse of Wikipedia.Aineireland (talk) 01:13, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- The content here is significant and relevant to the main article and does illustrate the public work and opinions of the person in question. I have not duplicated similar or multiple talks and kept all narrative to a minimum. The secondary source citations and the manner of the editing are within the rules of Wikipedia and does not constitute misuse. RichardLyons74 (talk) 15:23, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- This section is very much in line in both format and context as other public speakers and their articles on Wikipedia such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Robbins RichardLyons74 (talk) 16:59, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- There are no secondary sources. For some claims, there are no sources at all. It reads like cut and paste from a CV, which is very un-encyclopedic. It is hard to see what is noteworthy about the material. It certainly feels like this editor is very close to the article's subject. I would support the removal. BobFromBrockley (talk) 22:35, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- @RichardLyons74 I looked at the Tony Robbins article. a) public speaking (seminars) is utterly central to what he does, whereas John Walsh is a filmmaker. b) The Robbins section is very short in comparison. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aineireland (talk • contribs)
This article has been cleaned up in line with the guidance of Wikipedia rule and the COI tag is not also removed. The issue of neutrality has been adequately addressed and the COI tag is now also removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RichardLyons74 (talk • contribs)
- RichardLyons74, in removing the COI tag, I guess you are confirming that you are not the subject of this article nor have a close connection to him, as per WP:COI policy? It would be good for you to confirm that explicitly. BobFromBrockley (talk) 11:24, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello Bob, yes happy to confirm no conflict. I am not the subject of the article and I am not paid or influenced otherwise to assist with the editing. Happy to sign an undertaking to that effect if needed too.